Since you have the inside track to all things ALPA, please give us ONE SINGLE ISSUE VOTE the RANK-IN-FILE (here at good ol' United) has voted on.

Single issue meaning something like your desired in the original post - "It seems to me that if there is a way to do something like this, it should not only be considered, but put out for a pilot vote once we know the details."

Is you old airline CAL?

I've only been at UA a year (which I have made clear elsewhere already), so I can't speak to that. And no, the old airline was not CAL. I was simply explaining the difference between the two.

Every airline and every MEC does a few things differently...and I'm still learning the ropes here.

and the loop continues...........

I was just reminded of the assessment vote for insurance support of the furloughed pilots at UAL. That was a rank-in-file pilot vote and it passed with a clear majority.

Is there more?

ESOP mid-term pay negotiations (X2), C2000, ERP1, ERP 2, C2003, C2005, furloughee benefits, LCO work rules (X2), SLI assessment, UPA to name a few off the top of my head.

Correct, those are all contract/money issues and require pilot ratification. Do you have a single issue item the MEC put out for vote?

The only one I could close to was the vote for furloughed pilots insurance assessment. They could not impose the assessment and I think it needed a special pilot vote because it wasn't in the contract.

Guess a Strike Vote would be another.

PK

Of the several RJ issues over the years we did have one put to the pilots for a vote, if my memory serves me correctly.

Of course we also had the one signed behind our backs by I believe PW.

I am noticing a trend here. Many seem to think the form of government we have with ALPA is a democracy where everything has to be voted upon. Well in reality we have a representative form of government. What this means is we empower our associated council reps to act on our behalf. This also means, outside of required membership ratification issues, they can vote on a subject in a manner which may seem against our desires because they have "better" and more "valid" information from which to decide with.

Of course many pilots want control over the minutia and forget this.

^^^^^^^ Well said ^^^^^^^^

The standard for whether to send something out for membership ratification is in the flow chart on page 133 of the MEC policy manual and it states, 'Does the TA substantially wages, working conditions?'