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Birddog 07-29-2014 12:40 PM

Baghdad Bob on the 14-12S Displacement Letter
 
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Is the Displacement Letter correct that the Junior 737 Captain in Denver is 3943?

The Vacancy Bid 14-11 Summary shows a Junior Man of 8433.

Baghdad Bob thinks so.

Dogg

pilot64golfer 07-29-2014 12:59 PM

That's where it will be after a few rounds of bumps in DEN.

Flyguppy 07-29-2014 02:12 PM

Corrected Jr man table has been posted.

SpecialTracking 07-29-2014 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by pilot64golfer (Post 1694769)
That's where it will be after a few rounds of bumps in DEN.

That junior?

TaylorB 07-29-2014 03:26 PM

The MAX/MIN shows every category and base at max (and clearly over max in the displacement seats).

So once those guys bump to what they can hold... How do we know what will happen next? Where will the bumped guys go? Clearly to what they can hold in a secondary bump... But the little color coded staffing chart shows we will need 737 in SFO/DEN/ORD/LAX... When will those show as a vacancy and not require people to be bumped?

Sorry if that was super confusing.

pilot64golfer 07-29-2014 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by TaylorB (Post 1694852)
The MAX/MIN shows every category and base at max (and clearly over max in the displacement seats).

So once those guys bump to what they can hold... How do we know what will happen next? Where will the bumped guys go? Clearly to what they can hold in a secondary bump... But the little color coded staffing chart shows we will need 737 in SFO/DEN/ORD/LAX... When will those show as a vacancy and not require people to be bumped?

Sorry if that was super confusing.

Probably never. The graph said that by the summer of 2015 there would need to be between 25-50 Captains on the 737 in Denver. There are 130 Denver displacements just on this bid alone, not to mention that they have about 400 total in Denver to surplus.

There will not be a vacancy bid for Denver 737 Captain for a very long time because there will be more people bumping to it in just this one displacement, not to mention the others that will follow in the coming 9 months.

I'm sure many 76T FOs who get a bump to Denver guppy Captain on this displacement will soon be bumped out themselves as they keep coming.

So the amount of training and re-training that is going to occur in the next year will be staggering.

Birddog 07-29-2014 05:04 PM

I have no sympathy for them.

They built this problem themselves.

Three and a half years to get an ISL, the SFO MOU, the delay for a year after the SLI to do anything about rebalancing, etc...

Dogg

SpecialTracking 07-29-2014 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by Birddog (Post 1694915)
I have no sympathy for them.

They built this problem themselves.

Three and a half years to get an ISL, the SFO MOU, the delay for a year after the SLI to do anything about rebalancing, etc...

Dogg

Po..effing...etic.

Birddog 07-29-2014 06:33 PM

By "them" I meant the company. A lot of cabbage has been wasted over this

Dogg

Probe 07-29-2014 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by Birddog (Post 1694915)
I have no sympathy for them.

They built this problem themselves.

Three and a half years to get an ISL, the SFO MOU, the delay for a year after the SLI to do anything about rebalancing, etc...

Dogg

Yup.
I wasn't around for the buffoonery 2010-2012, but not starting the displacements last September boggles the mind. Wasting training assets to train a bunch of Capts way out of seniority, only to bump them, all-the-while paying the equivalent of 700-1000 pilots on the former blue team to sit around and not work? I don't get it.

It is not just salary. Training costs, bumping costs (paid moves, PS passes, etc). This will be dragged out 2 years longer than if they had started the bumping last year.

Obviously, management doesn't either.


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