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Old 08-21-2014, 11:42 PM
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I don't fully understand the logic to place hubs in locations with historically bad weather. Denver might not be the prime example, but it certainly gets its share of blizzards and snowstorms in the winter as well as storms and even tornadoes in the summer. Chicago operations lost a lot of money this year due to weather.

Why not put hubs exclusively in places like Phoenix where weather is hunky dory 350 days of the year?
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Old 08-22-2014, 05:38 AM
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I don't fully understand the logic to place hubs in locations with historically bad weather. Denver might not be the prime example, but it certainly gets its share of blizzards and snowstorms in the winter as well as storms and even tornadoes in the summer. Chicago operations lost a lot of money this year due to weather.

Why not put hubs exclusively in places like Phoenix where weather is hunky dory 350 days of the year?
Geography. Also, American and Southwest had no problem raking in huge profits in this past winter with hubs in Chicago, Delta in MSP and DTW, etc.
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Old 08-22-2014, 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by deltajuliet View Post
I don't fully understand the logic to place hubs in locations with historically bad weather. Denver might not be the prime example, but it certainly gets its share of blizzards and snowstorms in the winter as well as storms and even tornadoes in the summer. Chicago operations lost a lot of money this year due to weather.

Why not put hubs exclusively in places like Phoenix where weather is hunky dory 350 days of the year?
Like Southwest? They used to be only south of the snow line because that's where the fighter pilot training bases were. They eventually had to move some hubs to where the passengers are.
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Hubs need to have strong local traffic to be viable. In the 1960s as ORD was being built into a hub, it had many things going for it. A strong business market with lots of local traffic, and an ideal geographic location. I suppose that is why Chicago became such a massive rail hub as well. Certainly ORD suffers from the weather issues. However, I think the bigger problem with ORD is how it has been utilized. Those issues are being addressed.

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Old 08-22-2014, 08:07 AM
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Like Southwest? They used to be only south of the snow line because that's where the fighter pilot training bases were. They eventually had to move some hubs to where the passengers are.
And God bless 'em for that!
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Old 08-22-2014, 08:41 AM
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$166,872,300 for a $110m concourse that's been mothballed.
And never served a mainline flight.
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Originally Posted by deltajuliet View Post
I don't fully understand the logic to place hubs in locations with historically bad weather. Denver might not be the prime example, but it certainly gets its share of blizzards and snowstorms in the winter as well as storms and even tornadoes in the summer. Chicago operations lost a lot of money this year due to weather.

Why not put hubs exclusively in places like Phoenix where weather is hunky dory 350 days of the year?
Originating traffic. Den also had the advantage of being a tourist destination
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Old 08-22-2014, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by deltajuliet
Why not put hubs exclusively in places like Phoenix where weather is hunky dory 350 days of the year?
And the other 15/16 days a year, only the occasional haboob will slow the operation.
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Interesting (& accurate) choice of words for that particular WX phenomenon, given the avatar immediately above your post.
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Besides the occasional sand storm/ Haboob there were few days when I was based there with AWA that we had to cease operation for extreme heat. Most of the Boeing performance charts top out at about 120deg F.
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