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Knotcher 09-15-2014 10:27 AM

From what I understand, much of that time is the optimization. You give the computer more time, it will better optimize schedules to comply with as many preferences as possible.

CRM114 09-15-2014 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by ReserveDog (Post 1727321)
There is only one reason, and one reason only, why the schedules take over five days to be published, and that is because the contract says that they have until midnight on the 17th to publish them. They are all probably done micro-seconds after the Captains lines are run, but "you'll get nothing and like it Spaulding" is their motto. They won't give you anything unless it's in writing, and even then we have to fight them for it far too frequently. Please remember this next time they ask you for a favor.

It's amazing that a company so focused on costs does everything in their power to keep the employees with direct control of the throttles (and single largest variable cost) as ****ed off as possible.

NFLUALNFL 09-15-2014 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by CRM114 (Post 1727550)
It's amazing that a company so focused on costs does everything in their power to keep the employees with direct control of the throttles (and single largest variable cost) as ****ed off as possible.

...and sick list and on-time. You're right; nothing important.

oldmako 09-15-2014 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by CRM114 (Post 1727550)
It's amazing that a company so focused on costs does everything in their power to keep the employees with direct control of the throttles (and single largest variable cost) as ****ed off as possible.

This bears repeating. Nice.

Jaded N Cynical 09-16-2014 05:41 AM


Originally Posted by CRM114 (Post 1727550)
It's amazing that a company so focused on costs does everything in their power to keep the employees with direct control of the throttles (and single largest variable cost) as ****ed off as possible.


Well said.

TaylorB 09-16-2014 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by gettinbumped (Post 1727351)
Actually, I believe the computer run is pretty quick. The delay is that the company and ALPA both review the line results for errors before they are released. At least that's the way it used to be. Shocking as it may seem, occasionally a United IT system contains errors so the manual part is in place to hopefully catch them

I'd like to know how many errors are "manually" caught by the company or ALPA per month.

I do think it's absolutely ridiculous that we cannot plan our life for next month until the 17th (at midnight!) of the month before. And some months, this includes the 29th-31th of the current month.

This MUST be addressed in the next contract... Bids packets released on the 1st, close on the 7th, awarded by the 12th

cadetdrivr 09-16-2014 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by TaylorB (Post 1728378)
I do think it's absolutely ridiculous that we can not plan our life for next month until the 17th (at midnight!) of the month before. And some months, this includes the 29th-31th of the current month.

This MUST be addressed in the next contract... Bids packets released on the 1st, close on the 7th, awarded by the 12th

+1

And add the weird vacation calendar to the wish list. I know there is some "logic" somewhere in the past for the LUAL practice of the May-May cycle but it sure leaves folks who can bid summer vacation hanging until the last minute to make final plans.

JetPilotMike 09-16-2014 04:08 PM

I also hate the way we do our bid months. Most months seem to run 29th-29th or something stupid. I know they are trying to cut down as much as possible the 31-day months for reserves. Steal a day from January and March to make February 30 days and leave the rest of the months alone!

TaylorB 09-16-2014 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by JetPilotMike (Post 1728556)
I also hate the way we do our bid months. Most months seem to run 29th-29th or something stupid. I know they are trying to cut down as much as possible the 31-day months for reserves. Steal a day from January and March to make February 30 days and leave the rest of the months alone!

Almost all airlines do this - steal Jan 31 and Mar 1 to make Jan/Feb/Mar all 30 days each. Understandable.

But I'm pretty sure the reason we have it all messed up - adjusting the months and starting on the 28th/29th - is to have the summer months as 30 days and reduce the days off during peak flying. Granted, somehow every other airline I've flown for has fared just fine with May, July and Aug as 31 day months

NFLUALNFL 09-16-2014 05:46 PM

It's called "Mason Months"; named after the guy who invented them. It's a windfall for the company that we won't get back. The interesting thing is they put in the L-UA C2000; the $$ was the bright shiny object and we all just stared at it.


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