Meet and Greets only for Captain?
 

Just wondering-haven't seen any guidance if FO's can set one up. Cheers,

Nope. CA or FO. Good luck to you or your friend.

An FO did mine. And the guy that set up mine had an FO set up his.

Additionally, the FO doesn't even have to be off probation. Anybody with access can set you up. Best of luck!

I attended one and got what I needed from it. Still waiting on a call though. :confused:



Trent

Thanks Gents-Appreciate it

What does that mean, got what you needed from it? Meet and greets aren't what they used to be. I, and many others I know, have had meet and greets. I think it gives some "points" somewhere somehow but I dont know.

It's not automatic for a call. You might be in the "small" stack of 6000+.
The number was a WAG.

I had a M&G a few weeks ago and here's what I gleaned....

If everything goes well, it's a letter of rec on AirlineApps from the Chief Pilot. The original premise was that this rec would move you to a stack of 300-400 individuals with CP endorsements. Right now, it's apparently 3(ish) times that. I guess a lot of CP's are seeing some really good candidates. The particular domicile I visited allowed each pilot (Capt or FO) to push up one candidate for a M&G per year.

The experience was outstanding. Everyone was very welcoming. I felt like they were trying to sell the company to me, not the other way around. I wasn't too sure about the whole idea of dedicating two days of leave, airfare, and a hotel for a 45 minute meeting. In hindsight it was well worth it. I learned a lot, and got some good advice for the interview (fingers crossed). I equate it to a job fair, only you get to meet a CP and there aren't 300 other people dressed exactly like you.

I footnote all of this with YMMV. It appears each office does it differently. For better or worse, I think it's a great opportunity.

When I did mine in January, it was over 400 M&G's done, IN THAT DOMICILE ALONE. NOT counting the other domiciles/bases.

Interesting, because when I did mine (IAH CP), it was "one and done". IOW, your guy ONLY GETS ONE, EVER. Wonder if they changed that policy?

Imagine two stacks. One the normal and one the MG. They draw from the top normal and MG. You do a MG and get Moved over. Other MG can be moved on top of you due to their higher qualifications. This could cause a slight stagnation on the MG side. However, most are better off being on the MG side if they need the extra bump.

It has been hypothulated/speculatized that the MG short (less tall) stack is indeed a competitive within itself.

It's all still a points game.

I recently flew with a TK guy who explained that the shear quantity of M&Gs that have already been distributed effectively devalued them to the equivalent of a job fair attendance, assuming the original intent was to score them higher in the first place.
They should still be pursued by applicants, but they're not a magic bullet and should be included in your well-diversified application "portfolio" alongside job fairs and gobs of flight time. Being a son/daughter and/or former intern is a big bonus.
Don't shoot the messenger...

I was told that when I did mine in January, nothing new.

Where is this "portfolio"? How do these job fairs and meet and greets get scored? Do they go through a back door and have your name in some cabinet somewhere... Airlineapps has no idea if you go to a meet and greet or a job fair.

Anybody who could accurately answer that would be a very rich person. And not here posting the answers.

I think the confusion is by design.

Urban legend was, that during the CV era, ONLY TWO people knew the answer. CV and one other.

Under BK, who knows?

I was told if it went well, I "may" have a LOR added to my resume and my app would move to the small stack. That's it. No further promises. The best I could hope for was a LOR on my app. Two days later, the LOR appeared on my app.


Where things go from here, if they go from here, is anyone's guess.


Still scary though. Might never get a call from anywhere despite being competitive.


Trent

Here's to consistency.

I believe the meet and greet is a holdover from the old CAL system of hiring. It seems that the meet and greet is now just a way to have another LOR added to the online app. I don't know why a LOR from an office dweller would have any more weight then one from a line pilot who has actually flown with an applicant. HR is running the show, not Flight Ops.

Hence the added importance of having a "suit" LOR in this HR driven airline :eek::rolleyes: