Airline Pilot Central Forums

Airline Pilot Central Forums (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/)
-   United (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/united/)
-   -   Training timeline (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/united/87748-training-timeline.html)

griego 04-24-2015 02:12 PM

Training timeline
 
This has been discussed piece-meal in some of the class specific threads but I am giving it is own thread here.

For those who are in, or have recently been in class, what has the timeline looked like?
- Break after Indoc? (State which AC)
- What is the schedule once out of Indoc? IE ground,FTD, #of sims?


Thanks in advance. It will help all us awaiting class!

bigboeings 04-24-2015 02:43 PM

I'm on the 756 and waited only 5 days to start training after BI. Others in my class on same equipment are waiting as long as 42 days. Not sure about 737 or Airbus bit I think it's pretty quick. Training is 5 weeks from start to finish. Ftd starts after day 2 and goes for 6 sessions before the written test.

eagledriver122 04-24-2015 06:58 PM

Airbus- 2 days off between indoc and training. 5 on/2 off for the next 5 weeks. 3 day break between QLOE and starting IOE. Be advised, it changes all the time and it's tough to gauge what your breaks will be no matter the airframe. Good luck and welcome!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

73dot7 04-25-2015 06:10 AM

Good thread.......73's? What hotel in IAH?

cadetdrivr 04-25-2015 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eagledriver122 (Post 1868267)
Be advised, it changes all the time and it's tough to gauge what your breaks will be no matter the airframe.

This is really the only advise that matters.

griego 04-25-2015 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadetdrivr (Post 1868389)
This is really the only advise that matters.

I'm sure no one is trying to pin down their schedule, none the less, it is good to hear what people's experiences have been... To have some sort of range of possibilities.

Shifty 04-25-2015 09:34 AM

3-45 days off after BI. Depends on AC. Sheraton in IAH.

73dot7 04-25-2015 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shifty (Post 1868483)
3-45 days off after BI. Depends on AC. Sheraton in IAH.

Thx, Shifty.

I remember mainline jumpseaters showing us some kind of 73 training app...does the company use an app for training in addition to cbt's? Or could that have been something someone developed?

Any suggestions for 73 study materials?

Pro2nd 04-25-2015 10:32 AM

EWR 756 Feb 17 class.
12 days off between Indoc and a/c training.
Waiting to hear anything about IOE.

CLazarus 04-25-2015 05:06 PM

For my 7 April Indoc class - Many of the folks doing follow on training in Denver started the week following completion of indoc with a number starting a week later (1 756/15 320s). The other five of us going to training in Houston in the 737 are waiting 12-19 days (paid!).

All of us Houston types are doing at least some of our sims elsewhere (either MIA or ATL). I'm doing my first 18 calendar days in HOU (5 days on, 2 off) up through my last FTD (fixed cockpit). Then I go to ATL for five days and my first five FFS. Then I return to HOU for my last four FFS. IOE follows soon thereafter, although you have the option of three days off either immediately before IOE or just afterwards.

Don't know how much overflow our 756/320 bubbas are getting, but they can be sent to either MIA or Las Vegas.

All of the 737 study materials and CBTs are available on your company supplied IPad and/or the Company's internal website so I wouldn't worry about trying to get it prior to your aircraft assignment.

griego 04-26-2015 10:56 AM

Thanks, Lazarus

Appreciate the details. I was kind of hoping for a break on the 737, we will see if that keeps up!

WillyPete 05-20-2016 04:37 PM

Looking for any current words on the 737 training pipeline from the last few rounds of classes. Thanks in advance.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk

Aussiedoodle 05-21-2016 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WillyPete (Post 2132820)
Looking for any current words on the 737 training pipeline from the last few rounds of classes. Thanks in advance.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk

I'm about to start 737 training. What did you want to know?

WillyPete 05-21-2016 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aussiedoodle (Post 2132967)
I'm about to start 737 training. What did you want to know?

Timing between BI and IAH, any delays with the large numbers of new hires heading that way?
Schedule once there: days on/off? Weekends?
Anyone going somewhere besides IAH? My offer letter mentioned possibility of some MIA.
Anything a newbie might find insightful.
Thanks.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk

cadetdrivr 05-21-2016 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WillyPete (Post 2132989)
Schedule once there: days on/off? Weekends?

Sadly, anything schedule gouge you think you might receive is essentially useless. You'll receive your training schedule during indoc and even that can change significantly after you start. The training schedule is basically the "needs of the organization." That's why guys in the same indoc class will have anywhere from a few days to a few weeks off between indoc and aircraft training.

Just expect a basic 5-on/2-off footprint and even then things can get shifted around for sim availability and offsite training.

HuggyU2 05-21-2016 11:34 AM

How do they determine who gets the training that begins in a few days versus who gets the training that begins in a few weeks?

robthree 05-21-2016 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HuggyU2 (Post 2133137)
How do they determine who gets the training that begins in a few days versus who gets the training that begins in a few weeks?

Random chance. If you need a specific day off or prefer a quick or delayed start, talk to one of your indoc facilitators in the first few days at TK and they can give you an email to the training scheduler who may be able to grant your request, if it doesn't conflict with the company's needs.

Aussiedoodle 05-21-2016 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadetdrivr (Post 2132999)
Sadly, anything schedule gouge you think you might receive is essentially useless. You'll receive your training schedule during indoc and even that can change significantly after you start. The training schedule is basically the "needs of the organization." That's why guys in the same indoc class will have anywhere from a few days to a few weeks off between indoc and aircraft training.

Just expect a basic 5-on/2-off footprint and even then things can get shifted around for sim availability and offsite training.

This is right. My class had anywhere from 4 days to 2 weeks off but it seems like it is always different. Sorry, no set answer.

beavf16 05-21-2016 12:49 PM

I had 18 days between BI and 737s. Lots of people going to MIA for part of the training. You'll be 5 on, 2 off based on whatever day of the week you start. Positive space home and back on your days off. Sims start at 0400, 0800, 1200, 1600, and 2000. Your start times may vary every day and every week.

You'll have the same sim partner the whole time. It may be an upgrading capt or an FO.

Do all the CBTs before you get there.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk

PA Slammer 05-21-2016 12:58 PM

I had two days. Enough time to travel home, pack and travel to IAH. Didn't have any time for CBTS, SC questions, flows or anything else. But you can get caught up. Did see another that had one day shy of three weeks off. I was pretty envious, especially since it was paid and counts towards your probation.

Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

Regularguy 05-21-2016 07:05 PM

One determiner in the past of when a pilot may start training is seniority. Another is how staffed your current position and airplane is.

RomeoHotel 05-25-2016 07:48 AM

One huge hint to anyone training in IAH ....

Bring a jacket......

They put you in a classroom for a few days that is kept in the low 60's at best...

I didn't have one and I swear my concentration suffered from the onset of hypothermia...

Airway 05-25-2016 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PA Slammer (Post 2133181)
I had two days. Enough time to travel home, pack and travel to IAH. Didn't have any time for CBTS, SC questions, flows or anything else. But you can get caught up. Did see another that had one day shy of three weeks off. I was pretty envious, especially since it was paid and counts towards your probation.

Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

^^ what he said.

Having any extended period off between indoc and systems will put you at a major advantage if you use the time wisely. Get all of the CBT's done. Also, start getting your flows covered and study the profiles. You can show up with none of that done and get through training, but you'd be a fool. And if you had any training issues, you'd get very little sympathy.

Showing up well prepared will pay dividends. The new-hires that had it GOOD were the ones that had a couple weeks off and were paired with upgrading captains.

T6 Pilot 05-25-2016 07:12 PM

How early after indoc (or during) will you be able to start the CBT process?

MiLa 05-26-2016 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T6 Pilot (Post 2135386)
How early after indoc (or during) will you be able to start the CBT process?

If I remember correctly it was towards the end of the second week... The Indoc instructors may tell you not to worry about starting them before aircraft training but when I showed up in IAH it was pretty much expected to have them done... I had followed the instruction of the Indoc people so it took some extra effort to get everything done. It's doable and didn't cause any problems but do yourself a favor and get them done early if you can.


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:11 AM.


User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons

Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Website Copyright ©2000 - 2017 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands