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Old 05-19-2015, 01:47 PM
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Fighting for ATC Reform in Washington

Posted May 19, 2015

Today I testified in front of the Senate Commerce Committee about the important topic of air traffic control (ATC) reform. I was there not only to represent the men and women of United, but also as the chairman of the board of Airlines for America (A4A), our trade organization. Congress will pass a reauthorization of the FAA later this year, and they are considering the pros and cons of moving the air traffic organization out of government and into a professionally managed, more efficient non-profit corporation, similar to the highly successful NAV CANADA organization.

We all work very hard to deliver safe and reliable transportation to our customers, but our efforts here in the United States are hampered by our reliance upon a World War II-era, radar-based system that – while safe – is inefficient and delay-ridden. The U.S. air traffic control system needs complete transformation in order to modernize to meet the demands of the future, and the time for that transformation is now.

Numerous other countries have succeeded in modernizing their air traffic control systems, and A4A has done a substantial amount of rigorous, fact-based research surveying best practices around the globe. What A4A's research has found, and what I told the Senate committee today, is that a successfully transformed ATC system should have the following:
  • Separation of the ATC operations and ATC safety regulation functions;
  • A non-profit corporation operating the ATC system, with independent, multi-stakeholder board governance free from political influence over decision-making;
  • A professional, effective management team of the ATC provider, incentivized to pursue efficiencies without the constraints imposed on government agencies that hamper their ability to manage more nimbly and effectively;
  • A fair self-funding user fee model based on the cost of ATC services, free from the start and stop budget constraints that have resulted in sequester and furloughs of air traffic controllers, allowing for access to capital markets and a steady, predictable, reliable stream of funding that isn’t subject to governmental budgetary constraints;
  • The ability to manage assets and capital investments in a way that allows far greater speed to market of technological modernization; and,
  • Transparency in user fees so that users and their customers alike know what they are paying, allowing users full ability to recover costs.
I also told the committee that the total user fee and tax burden faced by commercial air carriers today (who are the primary and disproportionate funders of today’s system) must not get any higher under a transformed ATC system.
Nobody knows better than you do about the impact of today’s inefficient ATC system on our operation, and I want to thank all of you for doing your best to keep our customers flying safely to their destinations despite this challenge.

The inefficiencies, delays and costs of the current ATC system will only grow over time, so there is no better time to transform than now. We are capable of rising to this challenge, as have many other countries before us. The result would be a modernized U.S. air navigation service provider that will better deliver the benefits that all of you, our passengers, and this great nation, expect and deserve.

Don't think I like this idea. Pretty sure it would kill general aviation. Airlines, with a powerful lobby, would advocate all flights cost the same, whether a 747 or C-150.


And, private organizations of themselves don't necessarily mean they are more efficient or effective.
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Well my union thinks this is a terrible idea (of course that view is as bias as his)
I also don't agree that the system is only going to get worse. Improvements have already been made and will continue over the next many years.
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User fees will be the end of GA.
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Well, I agree this would kill GA.

But that aside, two things:
1. If Jeff wants it, probably not good for us
2. If A4A wants it, probably not good for labor or safety. Just costs.

I don't think it's a good idea either. You think the government moves slowly now, wait till a private company that uses cost as justification for not doing anything gets going.

Oh, wait,.....that was UAL under Glenn....I know how that turned out.
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As a retired FAA controller, i left in 2009 ,this isnt about the efficiency of the system its all about the Dollars plain and simple!
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https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-n...s-capitol-hill

Another article with some points from both sides of the coin.
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Jeffe setting up his next career move? CEO of NAV U$A.
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Grass-roots efforts DO work: the A-10 has been saved for at least another season, largely due to a Congressional-writing campaign, and testimony of grunts and JTACS.

As soon as I saw Jeffe was in favor of it, I figured it was about money.

Write your congressman and Senators.
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Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer View Post
From Jeff:




Don't think I like this idea. Pretty sure it would kill general aviation. Airlines, with a powerful lobby, would advocate all flights cost the same, whether a 747 or C-150.


And, private organizations of themselves don't necessarily mean they are more efficient or effective.
"A fair self-funding user fee model based on the cost of ATC services, free from the start and stop budget constraints that have resulted in sequester and furloughs of air traffic controllers, allowing for access to capital markets and a steady, predictable, reliable stream of funding that isn’t subject to governmental budgetary constraints;"

Just like the airlines, steady, free from the start and stop budget constraints, reliable stream of funding.
Short term memory problem...
YES, privatization is the answer!!!!!!
User based fees - that will really help take care of the "Pilot Shortage" they've been taking about for few years now. Can't wait to see all those flight schools start spurting all over our nation.
Yes - we should do it, because deregulated industries, has proven to be the best answer to the problem, just like airlines in 70s, power industry in 90s, and in recent history newly liberated student's loan, mortgages, and banking in 2000s!
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Start charging country exit taxes like so many other countries do. That would be a big revenue stream.
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