July 14th Class?
 

Curious if anyone has received the email for the July 14th class? Was told to expect July 14 and would be given 30 days notice but nothing yet...

oh oh!!!!!!!!! :D

My invite to July 7 class came last Friday, so don't sweat it (yet)

Fwiw, the UA employee website doesn't show a July 14th class. I hope for all of us that it is inaccurate, but currently it shows 3 June and 2 July classes (back to 1 per week in August).

Thanks for the info guys. Duvie, what class date is it showing for July? The 7th and 21st?

Exactly....7th and 21st are correct. Same amount of new hires for the month just 2 less classes to give the instructors some well deserved time off/vacation.

Can't complain about that. Looking forward to it and hope I squeeze in on the July 21 class!

I read a message on our crew site that said something about reducing to 2 classes per summer month… then ramping back up… TIFWIW.

These are the currently scheduled classes.

June 02, 2015
- 737, A320, 756
June 09, 2015
- 737, A320, 756
June 16, 2015
- 737, A320, 756
July 07, 2015
- 737, A320, 756
July 21, 2015
- 737, A320, 756
August 04, 2015
- 737, A320, 756
August 11, 2015
- 737, A320, 756
August 18, 2015
- 737, A320, 756
August 25, 2015
- 737, A320, 756
September 01, 2015
- 737, A320, 756
September 08, 2015
- 737, A320, 756
September 15, 2015
- 737, A320, 756
September 22, 2015
- 737, A320, 756
September 29, 2015
- 737, A320, 756

I got the CJO call yesterday and BK said not to expect any more 756 slots for the rest of the year. He also gave me a mid September class date so I'm not sure if he meant for classes in mid Sept and after to not expect it or from now on. FWIW.

Hmmm....hoping for the Aug 4 class and was hoping to have the chance to select 756. Would be great to know if yes, no more after mid-Sep, or if they're done with them as of right now. Anyone else on the inside have any info in that regard?

From what was discussed today I heard no 756 slots after August. However, they will resume offering slots to new hires again in January! Things change by the minute with planning though so who knows.

Don't sweat it... There is no seat freeze if you move up an an aircraft category (737/320 to 756)... And 756s are always on vacancy bids... So worse case you will attend 737/320 school and go back after a few months when bid activates on 756.

It doesn't matter. Show up select a base and airplane available and watch it fill up behind you. At the end of the day your statement will mean nothing in the grand scheme. If it does, wait till January when 756 is available and have 2-300 people come in ahead of you. Sleep well. What I would truly look at and think about is the DAL TA. you want to see and feel something that has a potential hurt factor to us all, read what the company is offering.

Thanks Toose! Appreciate it!

Thanks ugleeual! I've been keeping that in the back of my mind...

So... Anyone hear anything else for the 21 or August 4th? Saw that some people got the email for July 21 but anyone else get anything?

This may not be the 100% correct spot to ask, but what is the difference in 756 and 76T as far as UAL's bidding goes? The seniority seems to go to 76T, so there must be some appreciable difference. Thanks.

It's more that the legacy pilots manning each fleet were in different seniority ranges, the LUAL group that was in the 76T was more senior to start. In the end it doesn't matter, the fleets are being merged and you can't bid into the 76T any longer. New 756 bases in ORD & SFO will open shortly and all other bases will be merged so that by next summer there is only one surviving category.

It's less than you may think. The difference is mostly attributable to the demographics of the pre-merger fleets combined with post merger (both pre and post ISL) movement combined with fleet adjustments. For example, the Pratt powered 757s assigned to the 76T fleet are being retired at a rapid pace resulting in a shrinkage of the fleet and thus junior pilots are being displaced in several bases.

In 12-18 months the fleets will become one so the current split fleet situation is one of the last echos of the merger.

The 76T fleet is not available for bidding or displacing into going foreword. All 76T pilots will be BATed over to 756. New hires will not get drops into 76T. Only 737,320, & 756.

What type of flying can one expect out of SFO or ORD in the 756?

From SFO: KOA, OGG, HNL, and hub to hub. Thats it. Not sure about ORD, probably just hub to hub.

Thanks! Any ideas on how jr or sr either would go?

rumor is no more 756 bids for new hires and all will go to 737 and 320 starting in September… but heard that only from a couple pilots that just came back from a PC at TK… take it for what its worth. 756/76T has always been a little more senior on west coast then the narrow bodies… so probably take a few vacancy bids after getting hired to be senior enough to be the bottom reserve… then you wait 3-4 months to start training once awarded.

I honestly have no idea, there is a decent amount of people stuck in EWR still trying to get into SFO. We'll know in a few weeks when the bid comes out.

They really have to "freeze" anyone from taking new FO positions on the 756 until they fully get it all as one equipment type. Too much training, staffing, re-training, re-staffing going on for them to put new guys on the jet. Once they get it staffed, they may take a look at it, but they may be overstaffed for the next 2 bids is what I am hearing, but that isn't enough to displace anyone. They just need to combine the 76T and 756 and get it done.

Agree... But think the transition is going to drag out for awhile...

I think out of ORD what you will see is the 76T airframes getting made into 756 airframes, and the flying transitioning over as that happens.

So, over this winter you will see the 76T base shrink and disappear and a like sized 756 base grow in its place.

Right now out of ORD the 76T folks fly to LHR several times a day (3 for most of the year, but sometimes 1 of them is upguaged in the summer to a 777) they also fly to AMS. In the winter they have historically gotten MUC, CDG, and BRU back from the 777 as well.

I would suspect that the base will actually be slightly larger than what you see on the 76T right now as the total amount of the flying will become more stable on a monthly basis. You will have MUC,CDG,BRU and 3 LHRs during the winter and then in the summer when some of those get upguaged, you will get the seasonal flying of EDI, SNN, etc to balance it out.