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emb145 07-15-2015 02:09 PM

UA JS to Canada
 
I'm trying to jumpseat on UA645 IAH-YYC on 7/19/15. My carrier has full reciprocal JS privileges with UA and I ride them often. However, I've never jumped to Canada.

Do you just go to the gate like you do for UA domestic? I'm assuming if it's full you are out of luck? Not sure about the actual JS domestic US to Canada. If anyone has access to the loads, that may help greatly with my decision. Thanks!

missingbite 07-15-2015 06:36 PM

Right now there are 14 open seats for that flight. IIRC you can ride the JS out of the country just not back in. Someone can correct me if I am wrong. Either way, I doubt they will sell 14 seats in the next 3 days.

Good Luck

BTW, yes, you just go to the gate and ask for the JS.

worstpilotever 07-15-2015 09:09 PM

actual JS for offline pilots is not allowed for international flights.

missingbite 07-15-2015 10:11 PM

Thanks WPE, I thought they could but I'm sure you are correct. I do know that United has taken an Alaska pilot to Australia in the JS and it was allowed. I can't remember why.

worstpilotever 07-16-2015 07:11 AM

They are testing international CASS, but to my knowledge it has not been approved yet.

emb145 07-16-2015 10:48 AM

Thanks all.

flythetube 07-17-2015 06:37 AM

I've done this a few times, it is possible and yes you just show up at the gate same as a domestic flight. Even for a flight to Brazil where they have to check passports/visas, it was the same process at the gate in ORD: "Hi, I'm with [carrier] and I'd like to try and jumpseat to São Paulo, please".

But, like previous posters said, while you can "jumpseat" (as in, show up and ask to ride space available in the back) on international flights, you cannot occupy the actual jumpseat in the cockpit (yet).

Before I worked for United, I jumpseated on United to/from the UK, Canada, Brazil, and Italy. One thing to remember is that coming back in to the US, you'll have to pay the taxes/fees in order to jumpseat (this is pricy from LHR particularly, but was about $40 from Vancouver). So for the return leg, I recommend going to the ticket counter to ask about this. Also, agents in other countries often associate the word "jumpseat" with sitting in the actual seat and will then tell you it is not allowed. In explaining exactly what you want to do, it used to help to use the term "OMC" instead as that's their term for what you want to do. I'm not sure if this term is still in use as I know the software changed after the merger.

Good luck and hope you get on.

Softpayman 07-19-2015 04:43 PM

Be aware that in Canada (presumably you're JSing back to the US) you may run into some problems.

Typically it was an outsourced station and they were unfamiliar with jumpseat listings and how to deal with taxes and coding. "Uh....I'm told you can't sit in the jumpseat sir on an international flight sorry." No explanations could get through.

oldmako 07-19-2015 05:44 PM

Which is one more reason that Captains need to do the walk. We lose something here nearly every day due to their contempt and our complacency.


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