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Grumble 09-01-2015 07:42 AM


Originally Posted by pilotgolfer (Post 1961600)
Viperstick,

Nobody has stated the obvious. Commuting to reserve sucks. And to make it self induced...you are just asking for it.

No doubt. F that noise. Commuting to reserve, especially in EWR, is a special kind of hell I wouldn't wish on anyone.

Sunvox 09-01-2015 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by Dave Fitzgerald (Post 1961606)
Well, if he is a new hire, it may not be self induced and no options. :confused: From his initial question, he certainly has not been here long. But yes, reserve royally sucks the big one. Contract time...

Looking over his past posts I think he's been here a couple years and is retired military commuting from PHX.

Viper,

I'm moving to the 777 too. I expect to hit the line in November. If we fly together, I buy the beers :D but seriously dude - that's gonna be a not fun reserve gig. Do you have the bid already or are you looking to the future?

pilotgolfer 09-01-2015 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by Dave Fitzgerald (Post 1961606)
Well, if he is a new hire, it may not be self induced and no options. :confused: From his initial question, he certainly has not been here long. But yes, reserve royally sucks the big one. Contract time...

I got the impression he knows what he's doing...not a new hire.

El Guapo 09-01-2015 10:58 AM

Viper, the other thing to consider is that being a global category, they can pretty much roll you into any of your blocks of days off except the 1, 6 day hdo block. Commuting to reserve sucks obviously, but commuting to global reserve blows.

Viperstick 09-01-2015 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by Dave Fitzgerald (Post 1961606)
Well, if he is a new hire, it may not be self induced and no options. :confused: From his initial question, he certainly has not been here long. But yes, reserve royally sucks the big one. Contract time...

Been with the company long enough to have played the reserve game & had good success with it. Understand commuting to reserve sucks, but thought maybe long haul reserve didn't have the same short call mayhem going on that happens in the narrow body fleets. From what little useful information I've gotten by posting my question, it appears the company is at least being consistent across all airframes.

Still baffled that so many people chose to read ignorance into my initial question, but I've been on this board long enough to have seen the condescension of some posters. To all of you, have some candy.

http://images.rapgenius.com/7t7os50b....600x450x1.jpg

Viperstick 09-01-2015 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by Sunvox (Post 1961682)
Looking over his past posts I think he's been here a couple years and is retired military commuting from PHX.

Viper,

I'm moving to the 777 too. I expect to hit the line in November. If we fly together, I buy the beers :D but seriously dude - that's gonna be a not fun reserve gig. Do you have the bid already or are you looking to the future?

Thanks Sunvox, just trying to get a feel for the water given the upcoming vacancy bids coming this fall. I ran the math and I'm working 16-18 days/month as a 320 line holder to make the same money I'd make as a reserve on wide body. Figured if I could steal a few days off while sitting long call, I come out ahead.

Had a 787 reserve dude jumpseating a couple of weeks ago to Denver & he made it sound like wide body reserve was a much different animal from narrow body. Sounded like QOL might be better as you can steal days off easier than narrow body. The impression I'm getting here is the company is doing the same thing across all fleets--handing out short calls to everyone.

I now commute from Nashville, so ORD/EWR are preferred for commuting purposes. IAH has too much competition with the RJ guys & frequency to IAD isn't good.

UALinIAH 09-01-2015 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by Viperstick (Post 1961801)
Still baffled that so many people chose to read ignorance into my initial question, but I've been on this board long enough to have seen the condescension of some posters. To all of you, have some candy.

When you ask about reserve life on the 787 in ORD and EWR you have to expect it. Many assumed you were a new Hire since there has never been a 787 based in ORD or EWR.

SUX4U 09-01-2015 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by Viperstick (Post 1961801)
Been with the company long enough to have played the reserve game & had good success with it. Understand commuting to reserve sucks, but thought maybe long haul reserve didn't have the same short call mayhem going on that happens in the narrow body fleets. From what little useful information I've gotten by posting my question, it appears the company is at least being consistent across all airframes.

Still baffled that so many people chose to read ignorance into my initial question, but I've been on this board long enough to have seen the condescension of some posters. To all of you, have some candy.

http://images.rapgenius.com/7t7os50b....600x450x1.jpg

Why so angry? You ask a vague question about rsv on the 787 for bases that the plane doesn't fly out of and get ****y because you get a few light hearted jabs? Come on man...

With that said, speaking of RSV how's life on the 744 in IAH? ;)

cadetdrivr 09-01-2015 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by pilotgolfer (Post 1961697)
I got the impression he knows what he's doing...not a new hire.

Looks like 'ol Viper is not not a new hire, but yet new enough (Feb '14 hire) to not hold the 777 or 787 in any base, either.

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/1563818-post577.html

This thread is mental masturbation for a future bid. Well that and gummy bears.

Otters 09-01-2015 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by Viperstick (Post 1961806)
Thanks Sunvox, just trying to get a feel for the water given the upcoming vacancy bids coming this fall. I ran the math and I'm working 16-18 days/month as a 320 line holder to make the same money I'd make as a reserve on wide body. Figured if I could steal a few days off while sitting long call, I come out ahead.

Had a 787 reserve dude jumpseating a couple of weeks ago to Denver & he made it sound like wide body reserve was a much different animal from narrow body. Sounded like QOL might be better as you can steal days off easier than narrow body. The impression I'm getting here is the company is doing the same thing across all fleets--handing out short calls to everyone.

I now commute from Nashville, so ORD/EWR are preferred for commuting purposes. IAH has too much competition with the RJ guys & frequency to IAD isn't good.

And you summed up short call. I recently filed a PDR over short call. I had a nice email exchange with a systems schedule committee/crew desk rep. I'm narrow body on 320. Yes the short call abuse is rampant and from the unions perspective, this was never envisioned for short call. The company consistently runs a 10am short call your first day on reserve and several others after this simply to get you on the short leash in the domicile. And as many others have said(to include my own personal experiences) they consistently release you early only to put you on another short call assignment the next day. It's all legal and quite convenient for the crew desk. I actually had a discussion with a crew desk supervisor about the rabid use of short calls. His response, "we're short pilots so we use short call."

And they love to do a 0200 or 0300 your last day as well. When there's no flying or less(as there is now) the SC's are every where. They're even doing field standby's with all the SC. All legal. Something I hope we can change. The problem, so few on reserve that it's hard to get momentum in large numbers to change this.
Good luck on your future bid.


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