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MasterOfPuppets 12-17-2015 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by Packrat (Post 2029507)
How long is your commute? Try sitting in one for 10-12 hours. You might change your opinion...

every thing is uncomfortable for 10-12 hours even a lazy boy in your living room.

my commute is 3.5 to 4.5 hours depending on the season and the direction of flight :D

Firsttimeflyer 12-17-2015 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by C11DCA (Post 2028947)
Delta scope is pretty much our scope (we copied theirs) so the EMB190 is a mainline plane. Too big to be flown at Express.

DC

That is until their next TA offers 25% pay increases if they give up scope for the e190s. You never know what they have planned.

C11DCA 12-17-2015 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by Firsttimeflyer (Post 2029564)
That is until their next TA offers 25% pay increases if they give up scope for the e190s. You never know what they have planned.

True, anything is negotiable......but highly doubtful given the current state of the industry and lessons learned via previous relaxation of scope.

Airhoss 12-17-2015 04:07 PM


Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 2029504)
I'm 6ft 3in 250 LBS and commute every week on slim line seats and find them just as comfortable as anything else. I also appreciate the extra leg room I have in the far back of the aircraft.

You must have a dead butt.............

strfyr51 12-19-2015 10:01 PM

there are A319-132 and -133's coming from China and the Reg numbers will Start at N856UA. these are higher MGWT and a higher power tthan our -131's but they'll have some differences due to added equipment required by the FAA that the Chinese CAA does not require. There are only a handful of the 50 available with Solid N Numbers assigned so far that I know of. But!!
Time will tell when we see the actual condition of the airplanes !!
this could be useful info:
4885 A319-132 N885UA N515NK/Spirit
4886 A319-132 N886UA N519NK/Spirit
4887 A319-132 N887UA N521NK/Spirit

4871 A319-132 N871UA CSN
4872 A319-132 N872UA CSN
4873 A319-132 N873UA CSN
4874 A319-132 N874UA CSN
4875 A319-132 N875UA CSN
4876 A319-132 N876UA CSN
4877 A319-132 N877UA CSN
4878 A319-132 N878UA CSN
4879 A319-132 N879UA CSN
4880 A319-132 N880UA CSN
4881 A319-132 N881UA CSN
4882 A319-132 N882UA CSN
4883 A319-132 N883UA CSN
4884 A319-132 N884UA CSN
4889 A319-132 N889UA B-6219/CSN
4890 A319-132 N890UA B-6220/CSN
4891 A319-132 N891UA B-6158/CSN
4892 A319-132 N892UA B-6160/CSN
4893 A319-132 N893UA B-6161/CSN
4894 A319-132 N894UA B-6162/CSN
4895 A319-132 N895UA B-6168/CSN
4896 A319-132 N896UA B-6239/CSN
4897 A319-132 N897UA B-6241/CSN
4898 A319-132 N898UA B-6242/CSN
4899 A319-132 N899UA B-6243/CSN

I stand corrected, they're all A319-132's it appears. A little heavier and a little more power than our -131's the list is bigger than this but not all of the N numbers and nose numbers have been assigned, I have no Idea what the total Number will actually be.
It seems like a lot of airplanes owing to the 737-900's on order and the 737Max airplanes on order. Not to mention the Rumored
E190's or E195's to come. it's going to be a "Wing Ding Doodle" around WHQ.. I can only guess what it might be at DENTK..

strfyr51 12-19-2015 10:25 PM

Those seats are comfortable to you?? Really?!? Though actually Econ Plus is tolerable. ORD-SFO or ORD-SMF..
which is all I've flown in a couple of years..

MasterOfPuppets 12-20-2015 05:42 AM


Originally Posted by strfyr51 (Post 2031232)
Those seats are comfortable to you?? Really?!? Though actually Econ Plus is tolerable. ORD-SFO or ORD-SMF..
which is all I've flown in a couple of years..

Let's put it this way, I'v been commuting for 10 years mostly on UA. The new slim line seats are not any more comfortable or any less comfortable than any other seat I have sat in. Maybe my expectations are not very high, set your expectations low and you will never be dissapointed. Coach is miserable and the cramming they do aft of ECON plus should be illegal but the seat is fine.

Thanks for the info on the tail numbers!! Hopefully we can fill in the rest of your list with airframes.

Dave Fitzgerald 12-20-2015 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by strfyr51 (Post 2031224)
there are A319-132 and -133's coming from China and the Reg numbers will Start at N856UA. these are higher MGWT and a higher power tthan our -131's but they'll have some differences due to added equipment required by the FAA that the Chinese CAA does not require. There are only a handful of the 50 available with Solid N Numbers assigned so far that I know of. But!!
Time will tell when we see the actual condition of the airplanes !!
this could be useful info:
4885 A319-132 N885UA N515NK/Spirit
4886 A319-132 N886UA N519NK/Spirit
4887 A319-132 N887UA N521NK/Spirit

4871 A319-132 N871UA CSN
4872 A319-132 N872UA CSN
4873 A319-132 N873UA CSN
4874 A319-132 N874UA CSN
4875 A319-132 N875UA CSN
4876 A319-132 N876UA CSN
4877 A319-132 N877UA CSN
4878 A319-132 N878UA CSN
4879 A319-132 N879UA CSN
4880 A319-132 N880UA CSN
4881 A319-132 N881UA CSN
4882 A319-132 N882UA CSN
4883 A319-132 N883UA CSN
4884 A319-132 N884UA CSN
4889 A319-132 N889UA B-6219/CSN
4890 A319-132 N890UA B-6220/CSN
4891 A319-132 N891UA B-6158/CSN
4892 A319-132 N892UA B-6160/CSN
4893 A319-132 N893UA B-6161/CSN
4894 A319-132 N894UA B-6162/CSN
4895 A319-132 N895UA B-6168/CSN
4896 A319-132 N896UA B-6239/CSN
4897 A319-132 N897UA B-6241/CSN
4898 A319-132 N898UA B-6242/CSN
4899 A319-132 N899UA B-6243/CSN

I stand corrected, they're all A319-132's it appears. A little heavier and a little more power than our -131's the list is bigger than this but not all of the N numbers and nose numbers have been assigned, I have no Idea what the total Number will actually be.
It seems like a lot of airplanes owing to the 737-900's on order and the 737Max airplanes on order. Not to mention the Rumored
E190's or E195's to come. it's going to be a "Wing Ding Doodle" around WHQ.. I can only guess what it might be at DENTK..

Nice bit of work. Any chance of dates associated with those nose numbers? Just curious.

knobcrk 12-22-2015 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 2031296)
Let's put it this way, I'v been commuting for 10 years mostly on UA. The new slim line seats are not any more comfortable or any less comfortable than any other seat I have sat in. Maybe my expectations are not very high, set your expectations low and you will never be dissapointed. Coach is miserable and the cramming they do aft of ECON plus should be illegal but the seat is fine.

Thanks for the info on the tail numbers!! Hopefully we can fill in the rest of your list with airframes.

Those things are torture devices. My seat mate was was moving all 4 hours trying to find a good position. The arm rests are way too low for a normal person and the plastic seat frame jams into your knees if you sit in a position where you can place your arms on the armrest. I miss the days of the blue thick cloth padded seats on United, it was like sitting on one of those 90s lazyboys.

CousinEddie 12-22-2015 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by knobcrk (Post 2032525)
Those things are torture devices. My seat mate was was moving all 4 hours trying to find a good position. The arm rests are way too low for a normal person and the plastic seat frame jams into your knees if you sit in a position where you can place your arms on the armrest. I miss the days of the blue thick cloth padded seats on United, it was like sitting on one of those 90s lazyboys.

Boo-hoo! The slim line seats save a considerable amount of weight while allowing more seats to be installed. What airline is going to pass that up? They are the new standard in the industry. To go with a bulky alternative simply doesn't make sense from a competitive standpoint. Accept the new reality and move on -- or quit commuting.


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