Nope. If you get a month break between Indoc and airplane training, that's 90hrs you will be paid to sit at home in your superman underwear. It's a great deal. So great, that once you finish IOE, you'll notice a pay cut from that sweet 90hr a month pay you were previously getting. Can't stay on the training tit forever though.....or can you???[emoji848]

IIRC if you're sitting around for a long stretch unused between training segments, I think you go to 73 hours vice 90. Still better than a sharp stick in the eye.

That is not correct. You get 3 her per day until OE begins...then you have to get into LOA 34 for the specifics of how the company will try to rip you off. If they need you to wait a month or two for training...that is on them. Collect your 90 or 93 hours per month.

They count on new hires not to push back on contractual issues. Don't let them steal from your pocket.

Interesting... I may have to look at some old pay stubs...

It's not beneath the company to shaft the new hires that don't know better. That's the reason we have the half wing. The free beer is just a nice side affect :D.

The half wing signifies that you are new and learning the ropes. If you ask a question with a half wing on you will get lots of help, and your CAs are supposed to look out for you to make sure no one is taking advantage of you especially the crew desk!

Wear the half wing and ask questions! If you are being screwed most everyone can tell you where to go and who to talk to get it fixed.

This. And the real hit is in the per diem. You'll go from 30 days/month to maybe 15 in a good reserve month. Maybe less...far less based on BES. So don't let the spouse get used to 90 hrs and 30 days per diem. More like 73 hrs and 12 days per diem on average. Don't let the spouse get used to it. Basic math says that's $8,800/month before and $6400 after.

Good luck!

Yes, and no. Co-Domiciles, the call out time for reserve is the same for co-terminals, no difference. Short call is 2.5 hrs to show, or 3.5 to push. Long call is 12 hrs notice. If you drive, there are allowances for unplanned traffic problems. Prudent commuter policy in the FOM for those who commute.

EWR base is also responsible for LGA, & JFK, but we don't fly out of JFK any more. No customer interest there...

My take home is 37-4200/month. It was 4200 for the big check, so it's a pretty good hit leaving tk.

Is your training pay accurate or a mistype? Either way it's a significant hit.

Typo error.

I don't think this is correct. Co-terminals have a "get there when you can" time limit, in other words none while the main Domicile uses the figures you quoted.

Not quite.

The normal call out (2.5 to show) still applies, with consideration given. Up to the crew desk what consideration is. Be hard pressed to say you can't make it in 2.5 hours when called at 0300 on a short call, especially if on probation.

What C11CDA said. I wouldn't push it--especially on probation. To my knowledge, this hasn't been tested. Normally the short end of the show time is unusual. Usually you will have more time and isn't an issue. Plan on the 2.5 to show.

Was this per pay period during training? How long did it take to see the first paycheck? The way I read the offer letter is that we will start on May 3rd and not see anything until June 1st.

I think there's an advance payment the day you start that is later deducted from your first paycheck. $750 rings a bell but not sure.

That sounds about right.

In addition, the paycheck on the first of the month is 50% of monthly guarantee (35 hours) from the prior month so the following check on June 16 will be much larger to reflect training pay for May.
I'm pretty sure that is not the case anymore.

You are paid in the rears. Like someone said, you are paid on the 1st and the 16th. The 1st paycheck is 35hrs for the previous month. The check on the 16th is for the remainder of the previous months flight hours in addition to per diem. The check on the 16th is always much larger.

"In the rears". Lol. I recall that's how I was paid in the Air Force.

A nickel at a time as I recall.

Absolutely. You've got it.

Agree with your probation statement completely. As a for instance, lets say that you are within 2.5 hours of LAX, but not SNA. I'd say you were completely safe showing at 1-2 hours later, depending on traffic, due to SNA's further proximity with no cause for concern. There's no way on earth the company can expect you to hit a moving target when on reserve and I do believe past practice used to be you get there when you get there.

SFO based pilots are paid "in the rears".

The rest of us are paid "in arrears".

Technically, the check on the 1st is for 1/2 of your monthly guarantee. For lineholders this is 35 hours, but since reserve MMG is 73 hours, their 1st-of-the-month check is 36.5 hours.
Also, if a reserve didn't break guarantee then the 16th of the month check might not be much larger than that of the 1st.

I've been both a line holder and reserve and I can say with 100% certainty that my paycheck on the 1st has always been 35 hours. I know the part where you are talking about 1/2 your guarantee...but I've NEVER seen it done that way.

Now THAT's funny right there....don't care who you are!

What's the latest with Open time? Is it easy to get and are there benefits for newbies to pick it up? Is taking open time out if base a possibility?

Depends on the fleet and base. Small bases get way less open time. Large bases get a lot more.
For instance. EWR or ORD 737 gets a lot of open time. On and off reserve you are welcome to pick up trips to your heart's content.

If you are EWR based, can you pick up open time in DEN?

I've been online since Jan, and there has always been opentime trips to pick up if I wanted to. EWR base that is....

Yes but not until 1300 the day prior and they won't drop trips on your line to accommodate.

If you want to make more money, Senior Man and sit at home. Wait for the company to call you at 200%. Everyone in EWR got that... Other bases not so much. Nothing more disappointing than seeing 20 pages of open time pick up requests.

The caveat to this is that you have to be a lineholder. While on reserve you can only aggressively pick up trips in domicile.

This is basically utter bullcrap. I'm a mid-level line holder in EWR. I always put alerts in for open time on all the days I work plus the days I want to work. Most days are absolutely quiet. Many days in this off-season there is nothing open worth trading into, mostly LGA 0500 reports. Don't listen to someone who's been here 3 months.

I had three months last summer over 150 hours... You're just not good at hustling. EWR is a trove of open time.

You obviously don't have your alerts set right! Again, the days I've been on call, and since I've been online there has always been a trip I could pick up if I wanted, dude! EWR or LGA, there has always been a trip! That's my experience so it's not utter bullcrap...You clearly just don't know how to work the system.

I put in open time alerts for 2, 3, and 4 day trips. Trips don't normally open up til the day before save a couple really bad trips sitting there.

If you live locally that's awesome. I wish I could do that. I'm not senior enough to get SRM. 200+ FOs ahead of me in BES.

So assuming I get a choice between a 737 and a 756 to EWR, which one is most likely to get me to Dulles the quickest? I know its like investments and past performance doesn't really mean much, but just wondering what the best guesses are.

May 3rd Class
 

Judging solely by the latest junior man table.
The most junior DCA 737 guy is 12447.
The most junior DCA 756 guy is 12103.

I'd say the 737 but it wouldn't take you that long for the 756 either. A good friend of mine just got off probation last month and he's on the 756 in DCA. He absolutely LOVES it. He's still on reserve btw. Good luck getting what you want. ...And even better luck figuring out exactly what that is.

Cheers and welcome to United.

Looks like I will be joining the May 3rd class....

When did you get the invite email and when did you interview Romeohotel?