UAL in the News
 

UAL Captain turns back to HNL because he is running out of fuel in a B777?

UAL FA blows slid and uses it?

What is going on out there? Is LEAP training missing the point?

You all be careful out there.

There was a point to LEAP training? We have had some very good CRM classes over the years. This was not among them.

I was told that the 777 had a window heater fail and would have had to descend to 250' for the remainder of the flight. At that altitude they would not have had sufficient fuel. Hardly something to fault the pilots or dispatch for.

Sounds like the 777 crew was carefull and most likely used some great CRM to make the best decision for the safety of the flight and the Passengers. Do you have all the details or are you just a hater? I regularly get all my information on how to fly the 777 from CNN and the passengers in back as well though.......What's going on out there is **** happens everyday sometimes were in the news most times were not. And when that **** happens we, as professionals, deal with it and get our job done safely.

And did the Flight Attendants have a LeAP class? I don't think they did so what does that class have anything to do with this?

Anybody remember the "Rich International" guys flying around with a cracked windshield on a MAC Charter?

Good job on the 777 crew!

That is disconcerting. After she blew slid did she pop the slide and escape?

I thought LEaP was pretty good. Short on implementation ideas, but the crux was we are in an era of the greatest influx of new-pilots ever seen, and there are huge disparities between three groups: "Us/Them" mentality of legacy groups (largely on the wane, but still pockets of resistance), but more importantly, the cultural gap between old and young.

I thought it showed some insight that if we couldn't reduce those differences---mostly by adherance to SOP, and watching for communications misunderstandings---we were exposing ourselves for an incident.

I also thought it showed some basic problems with our training.

Forecasted winds A LOT different than forecasted on that day and the day before. We had just the required fuel to continue from the C.P. from KOA. (we were around 1500# over burn when all was said and done:eek:).
They unfortunately did not. Heard them on 123.45, they tried working it out with dispatch, but if anything went wrong where they had to descend, they were going to end up about 150 miles short off the SFO coast...

Why the need to descend? :confused:

I'm missing something here.