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azdryheat 05-02-2016 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by svergin (Post 2119323)
Also if you have self-employment income from a side job you have yet another $59k bucket to put funds into a SEPIRA as long as its income from the 1099 income. So you can put $118,000 away tax free each year.

You had me excited for a minute thinking I could use my other business to put away more money. I had always been told I could not. Turns out that is correct.
Here is the IRS FAQ:
More than one plan. If you contribute to a defined contribution plan (defined in chapter 4), annual additions to an account are limited to the lesser of $53,000 or 100% of the participant's compensation. When you figure this limit, you must add your contributions to all defined contribution plans maintained by you. Because a SEP is considered a defined contribution plan for this limit, your contributions to a SEP must be added to your contributions to other defined contribution plans you maintain.

So the total for all plans is 53K/59K, depending on age.

svergin 05-02-2016 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by azdryheat (Post 2120905)
So the total for all plans is 53K/59K, depending on age.

Not true. You need to talk to a certified planner. Here's a good explanation of a person putting well over the $59k away.

Forbes Welcome

APC225 05-02-2016 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by azdryheat (Post 2120905)
So the total for all plans is 53K/59K, depending on age.

Yes, for the vast majority of us, working one job at United, without financial planners or tax advisor or others.

ReadyRsv 05-02-2016 11:39 AM

Lots to learn here. Thanks for the advice! Right now I'm doing an extra 5% with that increasing to 10% on my anniversary date. Time to hit the books! (I started a 529 for future, not yet conceived, baby because of this conversation!)

azdryheat 05-02-2016 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by svergin (Post 2120996)
Not true. You need to talk to a certified planner. Here's a good explanation of a person putting well over the $59k away.

Forbes Welcome

Looked this up again and will check again with my financial guy.

The article you refer to was from 2014. Only one person in the article was over 53K and he was in a 403 plan. Also SEPIRA plans do not get the 6K in step up contributions and are limited to 25% of your self employment income.
The latest IRS publication 560 is pretty clear that if you are part of a defined contribution plan you have these max limits. Hope you are right, but I'm thinking not.

svergin 05-02-2016 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by azdryheat (Post 2121119)
Looked this up again and will check again with my financial guy.

The article you refer to was from 2014. Only one person in the article was over 53K and he was in a 403 plan. Also SEPIRA plans do not get the 6K in step up contributions and are limited to 25% of your self employment income.
The latest IRS publication 560 is pretty clear that if you are part of a defined contribution plan you have these max limits. Hope you are right, but I'm thinking not.

Contact these guys. He's a United Pilot and I know for sure he understands how this works. He's the best resource out there for us.

United Wealth Management, LLC | Charlottesville, VA

svergin 05-02-2016 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by APC225 (Post 2121023)
Yes, for the vast majority of us, working one job at United, without financial planners or tax advisor or others.

Yes most of us don't have outside income. I do because I'm also on my parents business and I get distributions from that which are a lot so I can tax defer a ton, but I think it's only 20% of self-employment income. So if you get an extra $100k you can put $20k in a separate plan ABOVE the $53k/$59k.

BMEP100 05-02-2016 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by APC225 (Post 2119649)
How have they been? I just started with Retirement Advisors of America.

I would be interested to know what their fees are and what kind of investments they put you in ( and what those costs are), if you care to share.

APC225 05-02-2016 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by BMEP100 (Post 2121233)
I would be interested to know what their fees are and what kind of investments they put you in ( and what those costs are), if you care to share.

flat rate of 1.2% for accounts under $500k, no fees for trading activity

they can only access the PCRA account so you control how much they work with

they can't do options or trade on margins

investments according to your risk profile

I haven't been with them long enough to judge performance

BMEP100 05-03-2016 04:48 AM


Originally Posted by APC225 (Post 2121245)
flat rate of 1.2% for accounts under $500k, no fees for trading activity

they can only access the PCRA account so you control how much they work with

they can't do options or trade on margins

investments according to your risk profile

I haven't been with them long enough to judge performance

Do they use mutual funds? If so, what funds do they have you in? I know some of those mutual funds have pretty high expenses.


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