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PilotGR 05-02-2016 09:59 AM

48% of C5...Really??
 
Just curious what kind of person can't sign a petition....48% is pathetic.

Airplane 05-02-2016 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by PilotGR (Post 2120966)
Just curious what kind of person can't sign a petition....48% is pathetic.



I'm an outsider, what's the petition for?

cadetdrivr 05-02-2016 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by Airplane (Post 2120992)
I'm an outsider, what's the petition for?

Better snacks on on the airplane. Just kidding....

Deny NAI

UAL T38 Phlyer 05-02-2016 12:08 PM

I can't understand why some Councils were less than 30% after a week of this....

There is no reason participation isn't at 90% or greater at any Legacy.

AllenAllert 05-02-2016 01:06 PM

Apathy --------

Just got a 13% raise - New CEO promising the moon.

What could go wrong?

SilverLake 05-02-2016 01:19 PM

Thought the same thing when I saw the percentage...

robthree 05-02-2016 03:56 PM

How do they know that I signed?

Airplane 05-02-2016 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by cadetdrivr (Post 2121025)
Better snacks on on the airplane. Just kidding....



Deny NAI



Ah! That's is pathetic. I'd sign but my union is too busy selling people how important the union is yet alpa is the only group bring this to light.

pilotgolfer 05-02-2016 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by robthree (Post 2121200)
How do they know that I signed?

You sign in under your ALPA number.

CousinEddie 05-02-2016 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by AllenAllert (Post 2121076)
Apathy --------

Just got a 13% raise - New CEO promising the moon.

What could go wrong?

Wow Allen. I found myself agreeing with one of your posts for once. Well said.

I had two flight attendants ask me detailed questions about NAI last trip. They seemed more aware and informed of the threat here than half of our apathetic (buyin' me a boat this summer!) pilot group. 91% were right there to vote for the pay raise, but less than half overall can spend two minutes on this. Pathetic.

jdt30 05-02-2016 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by AllenAllert (Post 2121076)
Apathy --------

Just got a 13% raise - New CEO promising the moon.

What could go wrong?

Agree. Pretty pathetic

baseball 05-03-2016 03:59 AM

We pay our dues money to ALPA. Consider the petitions signed every time ALPA gets my check. ALPA needs to put some automated do-hickey in place to allow for automatically signing petitions like this.

ALPA already speaks on my behalf when supporting both political initiatives/legislation, and political candidates.

ALPA gets paid to drive results. If it wanted a petition there should have been sign up sheets in the weather rooms and crew lounges along with reps manning tables putting on a full court press. Relying on the interweb and spam is a poor strategy if you really and truly are wanting this to happen. When ALPA really wants something to happen, they man the crew rooms and crew lounges.

NAI will happen because of Open/Fair skies. Anytime you need to put "open and fair" in the title grab your wallet. It's the 20 year later version of Bill Clinton's famous NAFTA. This should have never been signed, now we have buyers remorse then, and we will have it again nearly 20 years later, just on the aviation side.

The cruise lines and cargo ship companies been doing this for years. Panamanian ship, Yemeni crew, UK Captain, and an international mix of ships compliment. Talk about flags of convenience.

MasterOfPuppets 05-03-2016 05:24 AM


Originally Posted by baseball (Post 2121414)
We pay our dues money to ALPA. Consider the petitions signed every time ALPA gets my check. ALPA needs to put some automated do-hickey in place to allow for automatically signing petitions like this.

ALPA already speaks on my behalf when supporting both political initiatives/legislation, and political candidates.

ALPA gets paid to drive results. If it wanted a petition there should have been sign up sheets in the weather rooms and crew lounges along with reps manning tables putting on a full court press. Relying on the interweb and spam is a poor strategy if you really and truly are wanting this to happen. When ALPA really wants something to happen, they man the crew rooms and crew lounges.

NAI will happen because of Open/Fair skies. Anytime you need to put "open and fair" in the title grab your wallet. It's the 20 year later version of Bill Clinton's famous NAFTA. This should have never been signed, now we have buyers remorse then, and we will have it again nearly 20 years later, just on the aviation side.

The cruise lines and cargo ship companies been doing this for years. Panamanian ship, Yemeni crew, UK Captain, and an international mix of ships compliment. Talk about flags of convenience.


You are lazy

dvhighdrive88 05-03-2016 06:26 AM

Simple explanation...they are pilots. Perhaps you've noticed the litany of *****ing on the flight deck and no action afterwards?

rp2pilot 05-03-2016 06:28 AM


Originally Posted by baseball (Post 2121414)
We pay our dues money to ALPA. Consider the petitions signed every time ALPA gets my check. ALPA needs to put some automated do-hickey in place to allow for automatically signing petitions like this.

They do have an automated dohickey .. ALPA national sent out an email with a "call to action". It automatically fills in the email addresses and the message to your congressman, two senators, the Whitehouse, and the Secretary of Transportation.

If you can't find that email, just go to the ALPA website homepage, and click on the BRIGHT RED BANNER


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