Unbelievable. You're your own worst enemy and don't even know it.

yeah. yeah. whateves. Ya'll are still at the airport. Just like me. So keep on keeping on, rebels. LOL.. You're still there. :cool:

Yeah, laying in my comfy bed at the ORD Hilton watching TV, eating room service, and not signing in. Just like you.

For 4 hours? Good for you. You're Kewl

Pilots actually sign in? At United? I am not a rebel, and even i wouldn't do that unless someone can show me in the contract that I have to.

I will sign in right after I put on my hat, assuming I actually knew the location of said hat.

Just saw this week what appeared to be sigh in sheets for wide body flight crews in SFO ops. Is that new too (and not in the contract?)

Yes, they do. In Denver at least. But only for the last 19 years. I can't attest to anything before that.

That is ridiculous. There is nothing written anywhere that says we must comply with a sign in sheet. Who prints them up and places them out for people to sign in? The ladies behind the counter? Do they call you and ask why you didnt sign in if you had a FSB? And what do they do with said sheet at the end of the day? Im not trying to be confrontational or pound my chest with a crappy attitude but you guys needs to knock that off and quit making your own rules and procedures

Hmm. Interesting. I have not seen that, maybe it's new. Are you sure it wasn't the sign up sheet for your walk around vest? I'll look for that next time I'm in. If this is the case, I can ask our Council leadership to look into what's going on.

As far as I know, FSB has not been done in recent memory for wide body. 757 might be the exception. You really can't do it much because of the duty day for most international trips. Some of the domestic trips, yes, but there aren't many of those.

The sign in sheet used by one domicile is just their unique attempt in re-defining the contract. If that particular domicile gets away with that without the union saying "NO", then that' s on our union.

It's two problems: One that domicile doing it's own thing, and two the union saying: NO, that's not in the contract.

Who monitors the "sign in sheet" what's it used for? What happens if you don't sign in? Does scheduling tell the sign in sheet monitor to expect pilot X at 0000Z time?

I see nothing in the contract that compensates a pilot for sitting field standby. He/she can come by and sit for 4 hours and be un-used and then go home eating the gas money and toll roads. Probably a 6 to 7 hour day when you add it all up, and that's all for free.