DEN Base
 

Anyone know if it's possible to hold DEN out of training?

No it will take maybe 1 year or 2 depending on the aircraft you are on.

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Or 1 or 2 months. Or 1 or 2 decades. Everything changes all the time. The current situation has very little very little validity to the situation tomorrow.

Friend of mine from Indoc just bid into DEN - will have taken roughly 21-22 months from his hire date.

For those in the Denver area, is there a popular AME that you use?

Unfortunately no WBs at DEN :( so if you wanted to bid WB for the pay bump you are now commuting to reserve.

Also keep in mind there are ALOT of WB commuters out of Denver that you'll be competing for the JS with.

Bid SFO! Tahoe has some of the best skiing outside Colorado and SFO goes junior!

A lot of people in Denver use Ladwig.

Use Ladwig....

the junior man is about 500 senior to the 8-ball pilot on property... so it will be awhile. Denver is an interesting animal; now that the base is stabilizing a bit and NB flying has grown a bit there... you might luck out and see a larger late fall or early spring bid that might allow some younger pilots to transfer to DEN... just takes time.

I tell my Air Force buddies looking to separate that if being domiciled in DEN is of great importance to them for their career, don't choose UAL...go SWA, period. As others have mentioned, there is ZERO wb flying in DEN, and although there is some marginal nb growth as we bring some regional flying back in house, it's quite tame compared to other bases in the system. DEN is a junior base for SWA. People may get to DEN within two years or so, but they will be on RSV for a LONG time.

Anyway to look up the most junior person at DENTK? Just wondering what the timeline is to be an instructor there.

It's not a seniority bid position, you have to interview and be hired, so just submit an application if you're interested. Once you're hired you bid schedules based on seniority.

Den is still Phat City. Have not got a call yet this month. But the yard, fence, sprinkler system, and garage are all tip top. Now if ski season would just get here!

You're able to ski on reserve? Man..

13hrs is plenty of time to make it down the run and back from the hills.....;)

I used to fly with a Bus CA that did short call on the slopes! :D

Some perspective from the SWA side....Took me 6 mos to hold DEN. Guys after me were getting it in 3-4 mos. Spent 3 mos on RSV and now holding a relief/composite/blank line. It's also one of the jr bases for CA's.

No WB for UAL in DEN and better QOL at SWA is what caused me to cx my UAL interview. YMMV

Bid into DEN last December, held a line on the Bus right after OE and ever since. Senior Denver Bus FOs bid reserve for days off ability.

I personally like having options, such as once the kids leave home, I can bid for a west coast wide body and have 787/777, A-350 CA to look forward to one day. Commuting is a pain, but with a 10-12 day WB monthly schedule and the pay that comes with it......well, nice to have the option to leave the 3 leg a day NB flying for a while.

Not to mention the benefit of living near the training center for easy sim support pickups. That's easy money right there.

I've no desire to commute anywhere other than via my car. I don't care how much it pays. Definitely an option at UAL vs SWA, but by the time my kids are out of school I'll be in the left seat pulling $300k fairly easily...I'm not that greedy that I need more than that to consider commuting.

Different strokes for different folks....I'm glad we all have options now after the last 15 yrs.

Driving to work is definitely the key for sure. But for me there may come a day that flying 2 or even 3 legs a day NB domestically will get old. I see it with some Denver folks. Take a bid to SFO or LAX WB, do 2 or 3 trips a month, Hawaii, Austrailia, Tokyo, etc and done for the month. Just nice to have options IMHO.

Cheers!

indeed...now to just get rid of all those RJ's

Exactly, unfortunately depite getting something like 30-50 more NB's(737/Airbus) in the near term, we can't get enough of them to take back all the flying, yet. Seems like that's all we do out of Den on the Bus is old RJ flying. The pendulum is definitely swinging back in the right direction. Now if Delta would just hurry up and vote in their new contract. Snapup.....

But you can't sit home on reserve and get paid to sleep.

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I can and I did. I spent RSV this summer mountain biking, hiking and climbing mountains. Easy to do when you're in the foothills and live 40 mi from the airport.

I thought Swa reserve was always used?

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That's what I thought too. When I commuted I had a Fly pref and was used all but 1 day a mo usually. DEN has a lot of guys that pick up open time so when I got based there I switched to a Pass pref and didn't work 3-5 days a month on rsv. Spent an avg of 7 nights away from home every month on summer. It was awesome.

He's got a new AME in the office named Gary Childress. I was less than happy with this new guy.

Why? I'm about due

That sucks.

Mine was ok.

I'd recommend limoge down in Colorado springs


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Vernon Van Vonderen in Elizabeth, just south of Parker. Seen him for years, old Navy flight doc.

That is quite a name. Sounds like he draws blood, too? :)

No needles required... One stop shop. :eek:

Uhoh... Good to know.

I live in the Denver suburbs and am based in CLT (AA). I've skiied while on long call reserve. Just have to make sure the runs I choose have reception...

I saw Dr Childress last week. No issues.

I went three weeks ago and had Ladwig. Not exactly sure, but I think you can schedule with a specific Dr. when you call to make the appointment.

...And you're not driving I-70 on a weekend

And close to the city it's starting to suck more and more, and more......