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UAL T38 Phlyer 12-23-2016 10:44 AM

Computershare UCH Shares
 
MEC Blastmail yesterday had a lot of subjects. As I scrolled, I saw a paragraph on Computershare. Caught my interest.

I'll admit to being largely in the dark about these shares. When I got them, I thought they were relatively worthless shares allocated in Chapter 11; worth pennies on the previous ESOP dollars.

Well, I was surprised to find there was a decent-sized chunk of money there....and that it's based on current stock price.

Here's my question: is there a way to roll this into the PRAP without a tax penalty, or if sold, does it merely become regular income or Capital Gain?

I'm suspecting the latter, but figured others have gone down this path before.

cadetdrivr 12-23-2016 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer (Post 2268324)
MEC Blastmail yesterday had a lot of subjects. As I scrolled, I saw a paragraph on Computershare. Caught my interest.

I'll admit to being largely in the dark about these shares. When I got them, I thought they were relatively worthless shares allocated in Chapter 11; worth pennies on the previous ESOP dollars.

Well, I was surprised to find there was a decent-sized chunk of money there....and that it's based on current stock price.

Here's my question: is there a way to roll this into the PRAP without a tax penalty, or if sold, does it merely become regular income or Capital Gain?

I'm suspecting the latter, but figured others have gone down this path before.

The shares you own in your Compushare account are post-tax. No roll-over to a retirement account.

You'll get taxed as a long-term capital gain on the appreciation.

UAL T38 Phlyer 12-23-2016 11:35 AM

Thanks....I'm assuming the basis is the listed priced at each of the 4-5 tranches they gave us.

BMEP100 12-23-2016 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer (Post 2268324)
MEC Blastmail yesterday had a lot of subjects. As I scrolled, I saw a paragraph on Computershare. Caught my interest.

I'll admit to being largely in the dark about these shares. When I got them, I thought they were relatively worthless shares allocated in Chapter 11; worth pennies on the previous ESOP dollars.

Well, I was surprised to find there was a decent-sized chunk of money there....and that it's based on current stock price.

Here's my question: is there a way to roll this into the PRAP without a tax penalty, or if sold, does it merely become regular income or Capital Gain?

I'm suspecting the latter, but figured others have gone down this path before.


Donate them to your church or favorite charity. You get the full value of the shares on the day you donate them for taxes, while the charity or church pays no taxes on them at all, if they sell they immediately. Win - Win

cadetdrivr 12-23-2016 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer (Post 2268359)
Thanks....I'm assuming the basis is the listed priced at each of the 4-5 tranches they gave us.

Yeah, I think that's the case.

(Sold mine a while back so I don't remember the specifics on where Compushare listed the cost basis.)

UAL T38 Phlyer 12-23-2016 01:33 PM

I decided to sell, and it shows the basis when you set it up...

Your info very helpful. Thanks!

flap 12-24-2016 04:33 AM


Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer (Post 2268425)
I decided to sell, and it shows the basis when you set it up...

Your info very helpful. Thanks!

1st Distribution $31.65
2/10/06
2nd Distribution $35.51
5/3/06
3rd Distribution $27.52
9/22/06
4th Distribution $42.05
4/27/07
5th Distribution $46.09
11/8/07

These are the dates and cost basis for the tranches to Computershare

Many people have failed to include in their year end tax returns and get nasty IRS letters assuming zero cost basis.

jsled 12-24-2016 06:27 AM

There was a way to roll it into an IRA after the fact and re-file past years taxes to recoup the income taxes you paid on a percentage of both the stock and bond monies. But that ship has sailed.

http://hr.cch.com/news/pension/030512a.asp

joepilot 12-24-2016 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by jsled (Post 2268745)
There was a way to roll it into an IRA after the fact and re-file past years taxes to recoup the income taxes you paid on a percentage of both the stock and bond monies. But that ship has sailed.

FAA funding law permits rollover of amounts received in airline carrier bankruptcy - 03/5/12

United put the max allowed into the B-Fund at the time, and the overflow went into the computershare account.

Joe


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