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Old 03-01-2017, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Ray Kinsella View Post
Second year FOs make about $200k. Bachelor degrees are the rule with the few exceptions being guys hired 20+ years ago.
I know a guy hired last year without a four year degree. He was told he was the first person they've hired in ten years without one. This guy was also a 777 check airman and extremely qualified.
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Putting a 74Y domicile in ToonTown would solve a lot of issues...

There already is one

Its that special flying club.

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SDFZ is very varied. We seem to act like a hydraulic accumulator, absorbing the extra flying that other domiciles can't handle which is always ebbing and flowing. We have week on week off domestic type trips as a result of that as well as our own version of "domestic" week on week off (canada or mexico). 3 day trips, 5,7, 10 and 14 day trips. Lots of variety indeed. People seem to find their own niche and you'll soon find your favorite whether it is as a PAC rat or a member of the Cologne Flying Club.
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I've been looking at this a little from a "are we going to have another stagnation period/furlough," perspective. Here's some thoughts I've gathered from others: Short term hiring looks good. Longer term, after the 74 and IF any options are exercised, is anyone's guess. We do know the MD's will be going sooner rather than later and the bookies think they will be replace by larger payload aircraft which won't do anything to help hiring numbers. Domestically, its pretty clear we are in a shift from Business to Business (B2B) shipping to B2 Customer (B2C) with ubiquitous transitions to online retail. As the domestic air district's main value being next day and second day service, this transition to B2C (and Amazon flying more and more of their own volume inhouse) could weaken demand for our Air service and negatively affect hiring. International is where the growth area is, at least according to numerous recent UPS sources. Restrictions to trade, opting out of things like TPP aren't ideal for us. Long term really isn't looking particularly good for hiring at this point, with retirement numbers about the only positive exception. Albie once mentioned that hiring at FedEx comes in big waves of large movements interspersed by years of nothing. Seems to be the same for us. Get on while it's hot if you can.
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I've been looking at this a little from a "are we going to have another stagnation period/furlough," perspective. Here's some thoughts I've gathered from others: Short term hiring looks good. Longer term, after the 74 and IF any options are exercised, is anyone's guess. We do know the MD's will be going sooner rather than later and the bookies think they will be replace by larger payload aircraft which won't do anything to help hiring numbers. Domestically, its pretty clear we are in a shift from Business to Business (B2B) shipping to B2 Customer (B2C) with ubiquitous transitions to online retail. As the domestic air district's main value being next day and second day service, this transition to B2C (and Amazon flying more and more of their own volume inhouse) could weaken demand for our Air service and negatively affect hiring. International is where the growth area is, at least according to numerous recent UPS sources. Restrictions to trade, opting out of things like TPP aren't ideal for us. Long term really isn't looking particularly good for hiring at this point, with retirement numbers about the only positive exception. Albie once mentioned that hiring at FedEx comes in big waves of large movements interspersed by years of nothing. Seems to be the same for us. Get on while it's hot if you can.
Very well said....
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Originally Posted by 767pilot View Post
hydraulic accumulator, absorbing the extra flying that other domiciles can't handle which is always ebbing and flowing.
Or toilet bowl, absorbing the crap that others can't hold

Joking aside, SDFZ probably does have the most variety of flying. Based on my experience, SDF MD would be second. What the MD lacks is the inter theater Pac Rim and Europe stuff that the B767 does.
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We do know the MD's will be going sooner rather than later and the bookies think they will be replace by larger payload aircraft which won't do anything to help hiring numbers.
If that were the case I don't think they would be repainting them, putting new seats in, and getting all the spare parts they can get their hands on. In fact I've heard the rumor of getting LH's MD's several times over the past month.
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Old 03-03-2017, 10:24 AM
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their website indicates 1000 PIC in fixed-wing jet and/or turboprop.
Is this a hard requirement?

5000 total hours, 1100 part 121 (SIC). Not an unblemished record but do have a 4-yr degree (not in aviation)
Any chance?
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Old 03-03-2017, 10:35 AM
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If that were the case I don't think they would be repainting them, putting new seats in, and getting all the spare parts they can get their hands on.
Makes sense...then again, they repainted the QFs and the 8s right up until deciding to park them.
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