whalesurfer

This really blows my mind..

The company is absolutely desperate for help, they're cancelling training events because they don't have enough sim and IOE instructors, simulators or training devices, not enough pilots for sim support, they have a plethora of unfilled trips in open time and JA calls on a seemingly daily basis.. So you'd think the company would try their best to work with the pilots to move boxes, right?

Hmm, well, not quite. The brown logic dictates that you should placate the pilots by signing an abiding contract ..and then to announce that you won't abide a specific section of it!

To outsiders looking in - many moons ago ipa pilots lost trips to & from Tel Aviv, Israel and Istanbul, Turkey. Long story behind it, some of us blame specific IPA pilots who refused to fly trips they bid for, others blame the company for using a political crisis in their favor and some same both sides were guilty.
Past history but unfortunately we're still paying for it. Initially our nurps or non-union-replacement-pilots flew those trips and eventually it went to a Turkish airline (MGN).

Our new contract stipulates that by September of 2017 IPA pilots would fly those trips once again. IF there was a delay of any kind the company would pay a fine to the IPA or pilots who'd have flown those trips otherwise. Pretty cut and dry and the company agreed to it.

Well, the company just announced that IPA taking over those trips has been postponed by at least a year. They're using smoke screen excuses for not being able to secure specific slots.. ...and oh, by the way, they decided not pay the penalty either.

To the newbies who believe everything is perfect here - let this be a lesson to you on why our union is so strong. The brown motto - sign a contract, violate it and let them grieve it.

Very disappointing to see - once again, they won a battle but will lose a war..

No Waivers No Favors!

brownie

Well said.

Commando

I have to admit. The same blowhards on the Bar & Grill make me laugh.

They have there feathers up like a Peacock over a few JA calls coming out since the Video. Whoop de do. Who cares. As long as the flights are going, UPS doesn't care.

Start strutting around on the B&G when there are at least 5 calls a day on each fleet to the most senior crew members. Not this two or three spattered around over all the fleets.

When there are at least 4 cancellations a day, then go strut. Then maybe UPS will get there Sh*t together and pay up or all of a sudden get a slot.

whalesurfer

Sometimes people get overly excited there, that's true. However, on the 74 at least we're pretty close to cancelling flights due to MX and crew issues. JA calls are going very senior.

Now that people are getting royally ****ed off many won't even bother to answer their phones. Very sad development. One would think the company would be doing everything they can to work with us. They need our help! Yet their actions make line pilots (and mechanics) even more resentful than they already were.. Not a smart leadership style.. I must be new here?

767pilot

Has anybody seen what the excuse is for not paying us the penalty that they had agreed to?

navigatro

My understanding is that the company's position is that since they tried in good faith to secure the slot, they should not have to pay the penalty.

Commando

"good faith"? Yea, right. Their definition of good faith is laughable.

Call the state department. Your UPS. You can even get a Cargo cutout against all reasonable facts.

Bockrain

Yeah. Mitch is in their back pocket and he's married to the DOT secretary.

767pilot

Lame. Their word means nothing to these people. We "paid" for this at the table one way or another and now we get nothing of value for it because they "tried"?

navigatro

Agree 109%