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MD11Simnerd 09-22-2017 10:05 PM

Hiring vs Vacancy bids
 
Ups has hired 278 of the 301 vacancies that were up for bid during Peak last year. One or two more classes before hiring stops unless there is a vacancy bid.

FTFF 09-23-2017 12:32 AM


Originally Posted by MD11Simnerd (Post 2434749)
Ups has hired 278 of the 301 vacancies that were up for bid during Peak last year. One or two more classes before hiring stops unless there is a vacancy bid.

To elaborate for guys/gals interested in Brown: basically MD is saying that the extra 24 hires ups touted for 2017 probably isn't going to come to fruition and ups might not even reach the full 301 by year's end. For the 301, there is an oct class remaining so unless it has 24 (big class by UPS standards) we will fall short without a Nov class and there has been no evidence of classes beyond Oct.

The additional 24 requires the company to host a vacancy bid which is a bid of open positions across all fleets and domiciles - they could all be on 1 plane in 1 base or scattered through everything. This vacancy bid must be run and awarded before any of those vacancies, or whatever would be leftover from the reshuffling, are offered to new hires. The 301 vacancies were awarded through this process at the beginning of this year. The point is that it all takes time so the suggestion by MD is that unless UPS runs the required vacancy bid soon, there simply won't be enough time remaining in the year to do so later-but that is if they want guys to start this calendar year. They could still run the bid, in say December, and have the classes in 2018.

Internal formums are mixed bag of rumors as to whether or not there will be an additional bid this year. They also suggest the most probable cause stems from insufficient training resources. As far as 2018 hiring goes, all we know is that the company casually mentioned to our union that they anticipate hiring will continue at a similar rate.

MD11Simnerd 09-23-2017 03:34 AM


Originally Posted by FTFF (Post 2434760)
To elaborate for guys/gals interested in Brown: basically MD is saying that the extra 24 hires ups touted for 2017 probably isn't going to come to fruition and ups might not even reach the full 301 by year's end. For the 301, there is an oct class remaining so unless it has 24 (big class by UPS standards) we will fall short without a Nov class and there has been no evidence of classes beyond Oct.

The additional 24 requires the company to host a vacancy bid which is a bid of open positions across all fleets and domiciles - they could all be on 1 plane in 1 base or scattered through everything. This vacancy bid must be run and awarded before any of those vacancies, or whatever would be leftover from the reshuffling, are offered to new hires. The 301 vacancies were awarded through this process at the beginning of this year. The point is that it all takes time so the suggestion by MD is that unless UPS runs the required vacancy bid soon, there simply won't be enough time remaining in the year to do so later-but that is if they want guys to start this calendar year. They could still run the bid, in say December, and have the classes in 2018.

Internal formums are mixed bag of rumors as to whether or not there will be an additional bid this year. They also suggest the most probable cause stems from insufficient training resources. As far as 2018 hiring goes, all we know is that the company casually mentioned to our union that they anticipate hiring will continue at a similar rate.

Thanks FTFF, very accurate.........

jetlaggy 09-23-2017 04:12 PM

What ever happen to the rumors of all this off site training starting in Oct??

cougar 09-24-2017 06:50 AM

Expectation is for 150 plus new hires to 747 fleet next year. Initial training done in ANC or MIA. Some training in SDF using 744 IPT. Boeing contract instructors need go through initial footprint, will start later this year. Training capacity is always lower in fall due to IECQ.

whalesurfer 09-26-2017 06:14 AM


Originally Posted by jetlaggy (Post 2435027)
What ever happen to the rumors of all this off site training starting in Oct??


Originally Posted by cougar (Post 2435226)
Expectation is for 150 plus new hires to 747 fleet next year. Initial training done in ANC or MIA. Some training in SDF using 744 IPT. Boeing contract instructors need go through initial footprint, will start later this year. Training capacity is always lower in fall due to IECQ.

^^^
Cougar is usually correct.

We've also been hearing that offsite training won't begin until January or even later. The program has to be signed off by the faa and the instructors have to go through our training first. As always, we're behind.


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