FTFF

Looks like 2017 hiring is apparently finished with the October class and there are multiple confirmations for a class next January. Time for a new thread.

What we know:

UPS communicated with the union in the late summer and hinted they anticipate 2018 hiring to be on par with 2017 hiring (300-324), per IPNN.

The first of 14 747-800's has arrived on property with deliveries to continue thru 2018. 74 staffing has been at about 23/plane.

Rumors heavy that the company didn't anticipate we would use new vacation policy as much as we did/are. This will help with hiring numbers.

New training center being built to house 3 additional sims. https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/ups/108410-new-training-center.html

Several here have reported being offered a January class. https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/ups/108440-jan-3-2018-class-date.html

Mandatory 2018 retirements = 32. Can't find how many retired so far this year but it is way more than the mandatory number.

No system bid announced or even hints of one. They must do this before any significant hiring occurs. Note: they still have a handful of vacancies leftover from the system bid last year that they can use to hire with.

2018 is looking good for this place. Good luck.

Swedish Blender

Another half hearted attempt by UPS. Apparently the first iterations of the training center didn't have any bathrooms or classrooms. They thought we could just go to the other training building. Supposedly the contractor walked away.

But hey, we're building one extra sim bay. Wow, way to plan for the future.

Top men I tell you.

BoilerUP

In a sea of rumors, I can't believe that one.

Luckett & Farley is the architect of record on the plans filed with the city...they know what does and does not meet code.

Swedish Blender

It was straight out of a training center manager.

BoilerUP

I believe you were told that, and could believe SOMEBODY at some point suggested it, but I just can't believe they actually tried to do that.

No, I'm not new here any more, but I do have a passing idea how this stuff works on the design/construction side.

I heard from a "projects" manager the building was designed to be built in phases, with this Phase I and subsequent phases able to be built without impacting training in the existing space. Long-range plan : move all training to Edgewood and utilize existing TC for more ramp space.

I'll bet you a single shiny dollar Trading Places style as to what actually happens :-)

Swedish Blender

Built in phases. Another pathetic excuse for a training center in the future relative to a legacy training center.

I will take your bet Mortimer.

As far as code and bathrooms:


The requirements of paragraph (c)(1)(i) of this section do not apply to mobile crews or to normally unattended work locations so long as employees working at these locations have transportation immediately available to nearby toilet facilities which meet the other requirements of this subparagraph.

CactusCrew

Two words ...

Deice Gantry

But you can't believe they would try something stupid with a training center ?

Seatwarmer

There is something I trust, NOT!

UPSFO4LIFE

Dude get real! I seriously doubt that they would build or plan to build a building without a bathroom. If they just wanted 3-4 extra sim bays, they could have done it a hell of a lot cheaper by adding on to the current building. My guess is that eventually the new training center will be expanded and the old torn down for more ramp space....at least I actually heard this from a van driver.

I asked a "training manager" this summer and was told of no plans for new training center at all. those guys are as in the dark as anyone at UPS.

Swedish Blender

Guess since I've known about the budget and planning for the 747 sim and new building by the GOC for a couple years, I don't have a clue.

That's okay. You guys continue thinking no one else could possibly know different because the guy you know told you so.

I'll be quiet and let you guys "be real."