Upgrades and Retirements
01-06-2018, 06:02 PM
#31
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Originally Posted by CactusCrew
Are you saying in 13 months (Feb 2019) we will have upgraded all the willing 2005-07 FOs and reached the 2014 hires ? I would be surprised if that many continue to bypass.
Am I misinterpreting that remark ?
Am I misinterpreting that remark ?
01-06-2018, 06:24 PM
#32
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Originally Posted by robxjt27
I’m just saying that at some point there will be a big leap to 2014 upgrades. The new hires (2014- )will see reduced upgrade times overall compared to 2007 hires and previous.
Took me almost 10 years to hold a RSVB, there's 2017 hires holding it now. It will be interesting to see if our "growth" outpaces or just keeps up with retirements. And the other factor of by-passers could play a factor in the time to upgrade.
01-06-2018, 06:55 PM
#33
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Keep in mind our upgrades are to widebody Capt. Look at the doh’s At United/Delta to intl widebody Capt and it’s even longer. Plus 100% of our capts make our top pay(due to the single pay scale). I think FedEx is significantly longer for widebody as well.
Junior FOs make over 200k and senior FOs make over 300. I just flew with One who made $340k. It’s jot just due to open time either. JAs and premium pays abound. Nobody upgrades because they have to. If you can’t live on $300k you won’t be able to live on Capt pay either.
Junior FOs make over 200k and senior FOs make over 300. I just flew with One who made $340k. It’s jot just due to open time either. JAs and premium pays abound. Nobody upgrades because they have to. If you can’t live on $300k you won’t be able to live on Capt pay either.
01-07-2018, 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Ray Kinsella
It’s impossible to predict what senior FOs making that kind of money are going to do. Why not bypass and have tons of money and bidding options? Why be junior on the Bus or ANC, which are both difficult for commuters?
What will happen is that the amount bypassing as upgrades progress into the 2006-07 range will be less than earlier. We haven't had great schedules and good seniority as FOs, so why not upgrade into the same mediocrity.
The ANC commute to upgrade is VERY hard to predict. That is anyone's guess. I will say that most of those hired in 2007 were forced to commute to ANC as FOs at some point, so they have a history.
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01-07-2018, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by CactusCrew
I will say that most of those hired in 2007 were forced to commute to ANC as FOs at some point, so they have a history.
01-07-2018, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Archie Bunker
I’m pretty sure that all 2007 hires ended up being displaced to ANC at one time or another. I’m a Jan 2007 hire, and I was forced up there in mid 2008.
01-12-2018, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Archie Bunker
I’m pretty sure that all 2007 hires ended up being displaced to ANC at one time or another. I’m a Jan 2007 hire, and I was forced up there in mid 2008.
A few "lucky" ones got the Douglasaurus panel in SDF, the rest of us got to go skiing (or snowshoeing).
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