Qrav8tor

Interesting reading some of the comments over the last 2 years, and while this is “not” unique to UPS, but rather our industry in general; it is a shame that anytime one switches jobs it is somehow commonplace to work for almost free or sub-standard wages for the entire year.
How many other professionals when they move jobs laterally start over as an apprentice? While I suppose I agree one should be able to survive, it is a hardship with kids in university etc, to make less money than the average college tuition for 1 child.

767pilot

That's our better (Great!) insurance. A traditional blue cross go where you want, see who you want type plan. There is another option or two

trackpilot

This is exactly why I never picked up any open time during my first year. I just sat rsv and layed low. Plus you’re not getting paid much so I’d rather spend that time with my family.

GT4JB96

I keep reading about you guys talking about being on probation ... Is it that big of a deal??
Obviously if you do something really stupid like lie, cheat, or steal i'm sure you're done but.....
is there anything else to really worry about??? I'm assuming just don't be a dumba$$??

hammer pants

Can you get fired on probation. Yes. Is it difficult to do. Yes.

If you don’t lie, steal, or get in a drunken fist fight in the hotel van you have to work pretty hard to get fired.

I personally wouldn’t use the fear of being fired prevent me from picking up a trip. Now whether it’s worth it given our first year pay rates thats another question.

brownie

If you pick up OT on probation not only they wont fire you they might just send you a letter of promotion 😎 and being invited to management.

Busflyer

You nailed it, just don’t be a dumba$$

Pilotguy21

Speaking of pay, Does UPS allow any Gulfstream 550 flying on your off days?

whalesurfer

No.
Only Gulfstream 650 flying is allowed. Sorry.

Seriously. What does the type of the airplane have to do with anything? Except for the size of the airplane..
Put yourself in the business owner’s shoes. Are you allowed to double-dip your Gulfstream 550 flying with some §121 flying? No?? What a surprise..

You can do anything you want. Until you get caught that is. (which usually involves a violation or an incident/accident).
FAR §121, §135 or §91 flying has monthly and yearly flying hour limits. If you do ANY flying on the side you're responsible for making sure you’re within limits.

If you want to make it official you’ll need a permission from your ACP to do part-time flying. I had a WRITTEN permission to keep flight instructing during my probationary year. Some people told me it was an overkill but I just didn’t want to risk it. YMMV.

Tony Clifton

Every corporate job I ever had allowed me to do whatever extra flying I wanted to do on my days off. For that matter, my last “career” airline allowed guys to do extra flying on days off as well (you had to have a letter from the CP but everyone was approved that asked).

That being said, the policy here is no outside flying - so it is what it is. Not worth it to gamble the career doing something outside of the policy.