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SaltyDog 06-05-2018 03:15 PM

Hopeful,
They added 4 FO and 4 CPT positions in MIA
Best of fortune!

CactusCrew 06-05-2018 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by Hopeful (Post 2609142)
CC, I appreciate the advice and expected that sentiment from someone. However, there are multiple reasons for our home search outside of my possible employment with UPS. Being optimistic, I have weighted UPS considerations higher than others.

I truly hope that this MIA thread isn’t derailed by ANC displacements.

Numerous reasons besides UPS, good for you :D

Enjoy the search, and good luck in the pool :D

brownie 06-05-2018 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by SaltyDog (Post 2609159)
Hopeful,
They added 4 FO and 4 CPT positions in MIA
Best of fortune!

4 capt thats a mega bid for Mia 🤣🤣

CactusCrew 06-05-2018 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by robxjt27 (Post 2609102)
I bet most of those 20, FO’s at least, didn’t want to be up there anyway. So that may work out for those people. The captains are a different story but that’s any airline. This stuff happens everywhere and at all airlines. It’s the job.

Don't I know it :rolleyes:

Almost 30 years airline flying, 4 companies, 9 domiciles, 3 furloughs, 14 houses, 5 state drivers licenses, etc

And I consider my career lucky, but it hasn't been uneventful.

Enjoy the ride. All I was saying is don't make a MIA move or decision based on a UPS job. I think Hopeful understood that.

blueskywanderer 06-05-2018 03:34 PM

First off, the information and insight provided by many people here have been outstanding! Thank you for your time to help prospective new hires in answering questions. I know our APC section has had a lot of ruffled feathers lately, but overall the solid information and advice extending from IPA members has been top-notch -- very proud to see our overall cohesiveness.

As for your question Hopeful:
Miami is a 2-hour callout as previously mentioned, but I do believe it's important to note that you don't have to worry about reserve in Miami for maybe 10, 15 years? It goes very senior.

The real question to ask is how you and the family feel about driving 10 days a pay period (PP=28 days) for night turns for 1-2 years, ~12 days a PP for day turns 2-5 years or maybe doing domestic NDA week-on/week-off for 2-5 years, 2/3/4-day trips 5-10 years, and then maybe reserve or the longer international trips 10-15+ years after DOH.*

Follow up question: are you familiar with South Florida and the traffic situation?

*Standard disclaimer of variable results apply. :D

Hopeful 06-05-2018 05:35 PM

Thanks to all for the information. I like the idea of no reserve and would happily deal with the MIA schedule issues I’ve read about in this thread. We still plan to live within 30-40 minutes of MIA. My wife gets to choose this time; she has followed me through a few less than desirable locations in my previous career. If I have to commute, so be it.

As far as traffic, I’m somewhat familiar. I think my years in BOG, MEX and OAKB have prepared me for driving here.

On a side note, except for the past week, I’ve found the UPS forums to be much more civil and helpful than any of the other airlines which I have studied. A good group of pilots can make up for a whole lot of management issues.

Jassbuff 06-05-2018 08:27 PM


On a side note, except for the past week, I’ve found the UPS forums to be much more civil and helpful than any of the other airlines which I have studied. A good group of pilots can make up for a whole lot of management issues.
You only ever hear from the vocal few on APC. The pilots at UPS are awesome. Great group of professionals. Of course every pilot group has their 1%. Don’t listen to those and you will be fine. Good luck!

whalesurfer 06-06-2018 12:21 AM


Originally Posted by Hopeful (Post 2609142)
CC, I appreciate the advice and expected that sentiment from someone. However, there are multiple reasons for our home search outside of my possible employment with UPS. Being optimistic, I have weighted UPS considerations higher than others.

I truly hope that this MIA thread isn’t derailed by ANC displacements.

Agree with CC on not buying a house while on probation but I understand your other considerations.

Just remember that we have MANY Floridians based in Anchorage right now. Many are getter fed up with the commute and I wouldn’t be surpassed if some end up bidding MIA. (Especially if they get bumped out of ANC MD11)

mrvmo 06-06-2018 05:14 AM


Originally Posted by whalesurfer (Post 2609320)
Agree with CC on not buying a house while on probation but I understand your other considerations.

Just remember that we have MANY Floridians based in Anchorage right now. Many are getter fed up with the commute and I wouldn’t be surpassed if some end up bidding MIA. (Especially if they get bumped out of ANC MD11)

And not be able to tell their buddies that they are international B747/MD11 pilots? I don’t think so! 👨*✈️

Wait a second, what is a MD11?

Tango Uniform 06-06-2018 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by Hopeful (Post 2609234)
Thanks to all for the information. I like the idea of no reserve and would happily deal with the MIA schedule issues I’ve read about in this thread. We still plan to live within 30-40 minutes of MIA. My wife gets to choose this time; she has followed me through a few less than desirable locations in my previous career. If I have to commute, so be it.

As far as traffic, I’m somewhat familiar. I think my years in BOG, MEX and OAKB have prepared me for driving here.

On a side note, except for the past week, I’ve found the UPS forums to be much more civil and helpful than any of the other airlines which I have studied. A good group of pilots can make up for a whole lot of management issues.


You do know that living "30-40 minutes of MIA" puts you living on Le Jeune or Milam Dairy Road :D


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