mrvmo

The MD11 will be gone when it’s gone. I know, not a very profound statement, Despite any rumor, no one here know anything about the company’s retirement plan for it. My guess? You will see the MD on the property for many years to come.

767pilot

It'll be here after I'm gone

Madella0124

I’ve been in the pool for several months now. Received the email this morning that the job requisition has expired and I needed to login and update a portion of my application. Will this cover me through 2019? I seem to remember the new job listing for the new year coming out after January 1, not at the end of December.

BrownDoubles

If I recall correctly the link for the job application will have the year included in the title. So the new one should be 2019 when it is available; been a while though.

Madella0124

There wasn’t a link to the job number. When I logged into my UPS application profile there was a new application filled out 95% of the way. I updated what was needed and it went Active with today’s date. Just not how I remember it from last year.

f10a

I was invited to interview in Feb and also received this email today but for some reason do not think it's associated with the app that resulted in the interview in my case. Confusing nonetheless.

Hopeful

This is similar to my experience this year and last year. This is just how the UPS hiring process works. I have read in previous posts that even those already attending class were directed to complete a new application as the year ended.

HappyTrails

All the hopefuls, keep the faith. I was hired this year with zero recommendations, zero heavy time, so it does happen. It may not be the norm, but it does happen. What some of my colleagues have mentioned is undoubtedly true. We are not an airline, we simply operate airplanes because we have to. It is my understanding every application gets looked at by a person, not simply given a computer score, similar to Delta. And because we hire much fewer (in gross terms) than the Legacies and Fedex, they can afford to be more selective.

Something else I like about our hiring practice is the fact we hire from all spectrums, regional, heavy, military, LCC, ACMI, corporate, etc. There is no one profile that fits Brown. Just keep pressing along. Just like everyone else, and even with a looming recession, we have a significant number of retirements starting soon. Even if we use all the new airplanes coming to replace the 37 MD’s, it won’t happen overnight and the retirements will keep increasing. Which leads to another issue, one which I think the company is underestimating: early retirements. As many 89-90-91-92 hires hit 30 years, I have spoken to many who will most likely not go to 65. Our schedules keep deteriorating, and many won’t want to deal with this. This year we had multiple early outs, and this is just the beginning.

Come to Brown because you want to work here, because something, basing, airplanes, whatever is important to you, but never plan on going somewhere based on career progression.

CactusCrew

I vaguely remember something similar many years ago, so this isn't a new thing. Probably a "legal"requirement of some sort.

Ironic that you mention this happening, on 2 of my trips in the last 2 months the Capt told me they just turned in their retirement paperwork. On RSV so I don't fly with the same crews every week. I know at least one of those is going shortly after 60, so early for UPS planning.

FrontSeat2

The last two fleets gone were practically overnight. So much so that many pilots stayed home for over a year before being retrained. It happened in the recent past and can happen again.

True statement on career progression, never come to UPS for that reason. Just when you think you are finding your niche or some other QOL improvement it will be snatched away never to return. Seniority has a way of balancing out and if someone junior has a good deal it is a one off event that will go away next bid.