Western Global/21Air contracting to end
07-06-2018, 08:16 AM
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[QUOTE=jetlaggy;2628032]
When does the DUB/SHN payment start?
By the beginning of 18-06, half the payment of TLV. 600 vs 300 so instead of $60 a pay period you will see $30 if they don't comply.
Originally Posted by PastV1by10
When does the DUB/SHN payment start?
07-06-2018, 01:37 PM
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You’d never know from reading these threads that it’s as good as it’s ever been at UPS as a pilot. Dude in ANC ops was bragging about having already made $400k this year. Not sure if that’s true, but 747 guys are making bank.
07-06-2018, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Ray Kinsella
You’d never know from reading these threads that it’s as good as it’s ever been at UPS as a pilot. Dude in ANC ops was bragging about having already made $400k this year. Not sure if that’s true, but 747 guys are making bank.
Last edited by Swedish Blender; 07-06-2018 at 06:05 PM.
07-06-2018, 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Ray Kinsella
You’d never know from reading these threads that it’s as good as it’s ever been at UPS as a pilot. Dude in ANC ops was bragging about having already made $400k this year. Not sure if that’s true, but 747 guys are making bank.
Some of the comments I’ve heard in the past makes you wonder if people even know what the average person typically makes??
As far as the claim made by that 74 workoholic, I’ve been comparing the typical 74 pay to my buds on the Z and MD and it’s about the same. So take all that bragging with a grain of salt.
More importantly please ask him or her to take those comments elsewhere, away from people who’re working their butts off trying to make our lives easier for a whopping ~$32K a year.
07-07-2018, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by PastV1by10
So your saying the contract in it’s current form didn’t provide any consessions to reduce the number of reserve lines? The shiftable and reserve extensions didn’t provide any flexibility to the company to be able to reduce the 22% number? Come on man even the average line slug getting abused can see that.
On the surface, perhaps appears that way, but reserve lines from Ops reports suggest still overall around historical numbers.
Pilots on reserve definitely get called far more often. If no growth, and every pilot took the extra money instead of vacation time OCV, I'm certain reserve pilots would be called less as in past times.
Regarding shiftable reserves? They stay on same call period as non shiftable the absolute majority of the time.
Rare to see the actual shift.
Reserve extension: UPS gave up 16 days Reserve in 1998 to 15 in 2006, then gave up 15 in 2016 to 14. In all contracts, UPS had contractual ability to extend pilots on reserve into days off for certain parameters. Parameters varied over the last 20 years, but always existed and allowed weather/ mechanical and international provisions.
Domestically, only one day (back to original 2006 15 mandatory which could be extended back then. Now, could do 15, like 2006 contract.
If you look at the extensions, every IPA pilot who sits on reserve sits a guaranteed one less day. Even if extended, still on the road contractually in this CBA less days than any previous contract plus get paid better for an extension.
Cheers
09-21-2018, 11:32 PM
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Is this for sure to end? I'm hearing all sorts of rumors that UPS isn't really going away for us here at WGN.
Not trying to put salt in anyone's eye over this, I just keep hearing conflicting information.
Not trying to put salt in anyone's eye over this, I just keep hearing conflicting information.
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