DBurchett

I am currently a corporate pilot trying to get on with you guys. I can say that there is a pilot shortage. Who is seeing the shortage first is definitely based off of what you can offer on pay and benefits. I have been trying to tell the owners this for a while now but to deaf ears. We have one outfit we’re their pilot left to go work for the FAA for schedule and benefits and his aircraft has been in managed for 6 months now. I have friends at Proctor and Gamble, that was the place to go and highly sought after are hardly getting resumes any more. One of their pilots just went to UPS this year. I remember in the early 2000’s, we used to get resumes all the time for guys just trying to get a job. I am currently running 2 separate corporate aircraft operations with aircraft requiring 2 pilots with only 2 full time guys and I am one of them. Most of the guys I am seeing to use as fill ins are either flying extra with having a schedule at their current job or guys near retirement or have retired and just want something to do. Until I have to cancel trips because I can’t get anyone, will these guys shell out more money. Deepest pockets will win out for this period until a recession hits the passenger industry or enough time goes buy and enough pilots are created.

Managment

Get a better handle on your writing and English language skills, then we can talk about your employment here.

Jassbuff

😂😂
Will they shell out more money? Yes, but right now UPS is already the highest paid pilots and management is showing at least for now they will not give anymore.

zerozero

Spells his name correctly one out of two times.

iflyme

HA! "Managment" That's funny and a good catch.

Vital Signs

I once trained a Fedex driver who was getting his pilots licenses and Fedex was paying the bill.

PotatoChip

7000 hours, 2000 hours 747 time, masters degree. Told to “reapply in three years when you’ll be more competitive” at a recent job fair.
Pilot shortage; that’s laughable.

767pilot

How recent was all of that time? Seems like there is more to that story. Why 3 years and not 1?

wrxpilot

Agreed. That’s a bizarre comment.

A couple years ago I was told by an AA recruiter that I should quit my RJ job, go to Frontier or Spirit and “Learn how to fly big airplanes” to be competitive at AA. At the time I was a CRJ PIC flying multiple legs into Aspen every week. I was without question the sharpest I’ll ever be in my career at that time. His comment was clearly laughable, stupid, and I’m sure not representative of most people at AA.

iflyme

Agree, that this is a peculiar comment. I haven't heard of people being given a timeline. I would think the person would give you more of a Flight Time goal instead. on the surface, your numbers look similar to mine as I have 7500+ and just over 2000 in the 744 as well. But I have a good amount of PIC time (Airline PIC, not just pilot flying PIC). I sat in the pool for just over 4 months and recently got the CJO.

What's your PIC time? They really want Turbine PIC time, I'm told. When I would update them, I tried to give them info that the UPS site specifically asked for:

Total Time
Total PIC
Crew PIC
SIC
Multi Eng Turbine/Jet Total Time
Turbine PIC
Previous 24 MO
Part 121&135
Part 91
Type specific times (your 747 time and anything you're currently flying)


Also, did you study the company and know what UPS does besides ship boxes? That's a huge part of the process! I don't mean generic knowledge, but have some pretty in-depth knowledge of what UPS does, the services they provide, history of UPS, some of the cutting edge moves they've made in the past, and the tenets of how UPS operates.