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Old 05-21-2019, 03:40 AM
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I would also submit that, in addition to retirements, we're currently scheduled to take delivery of 28 new 747-8, 14 new 763Fs, 3 767BCFs, and five leased 763BCFs beween Oct 2017 and year end 2022.

All those are *currently projected* as growth (not replacement) airframes, and represent a significant increase in total Captain positions and overall IPA pilots which will serve to further lower upgrade time.

In 2019 alone, we're taking delivery of sixteen total airframes.

Assuming no global calamity, I bet a 2014 hire holds a CA position somewhere in the company no later than the Dec 2020 bid.
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Old 05-21-2019, 04:34 AM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP View Post
Assuming no global calamity, I bet a 2014 hire holds a CA position somewhere in the company no later than the Dec 2020 bid.
Or the "perfect storm" trifecta ... global calamity, unexpected parking of another McDonnell Douglas fleet, and an increase in the mandatory retirement age.

Could all three happen again ??? Probably the same odds as a decade ago.

So Boiler, where will this 2014 Captain be based in Dec 2020 ? Does the crystal ball have that info ? Asking for a friend ..
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Old 05-21-2019, 05:45 AM
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I dunno if one will be in the seat Dec 2020, but holding an award? ONT, SDF Bus, or SDF 757 in that order is my prognostication.

Feel free to tell me I was wrong in 19 months if it doesn’t happen; I’ve been wrong before

Also where is this retirement age increase talk coming from??? Nowhere NEAR where it was in 07...and I haven’t heard of a leading ALPA membership survey about the topic like the one I took in mid-07.
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Old 05-21-2019, 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP View Post

Assuming no global calamity, I bet a 2014 hire holds a CA position somewhere in the company no later than the Dec 2020 bid.
Same 6 or 7 years I projected. I really think sooner or later they're going to have to admit that the MD is done and the economy will dictate if the replacements are already here.
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Old 05-21-2019, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by 767pilot View Post
Same 6 or 7 years I projected. I really think sooner or later they're going to have to admit that the MD is done and the economy will dictate if the replacements are already here.
FWIW, just heard its going to stay longer since there isn't a replacement that will do what the MD does.

As far as early retirements, remember they pull from the future mandatory retirements. Have to see if the trend continues.
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Old 05-21-2019, 08:32 AM
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FWIW, just heard its going to stay longer since there isn't a replacement that will do what the MD does.
Which is what, break down and dissapoint tens of thousands of customers on any given day?

I kid, I kid.

We used to fly a lot of domestic 747's. Sdf/phl, sdf/ewr, sdf/pdx, phl/ONT, oak/phl, ord, dfw, you get the point. I could envision much if not all MD flying covered by the 74 and more 767's.
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Old 05-21-2019, 08:52 AM
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That would require a *gasp* SDF 747 domicile (manned by IPA crews, that is)...
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Old 05-21-2019, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP View Post
That would require a *gasp* SDF 747 domicile (manned by IPA crews, that is)...
There used to be such a thing!!
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Old 05-21-2019, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 767pilot View Post
. . I could envision much if not all MD flying covered by the 74 and more 767's..
That would require parking that doesn’t currently exist since the MD can park on the wings and any replacement would be unable to do the same.

As far as breaking, I haven’t personally had one in at least two years.
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Old 05-21-2019, 10:54 AM
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How many -400s can fit on Ramp 6?
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