First world problem
#1
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First world problem
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After unsuccessful interviews with united and fedex this spring, I am faced with deciding between AA that gave me a Jan 7 th CJO last week and a Jan 7th start with UPS ( in pool for 6 months )
I am military ( flying reservist) and would happily love in one of the AA domiciles but am not sure yet about the UPS ones.
Looking for thoughts from people at UPS about commuting ( from va beach specifically) QOL, projected seniority .. anything really
Thanks in advance.
After unsuccessful interviews with united and fedex this spring, I am faced with deciding between AA that gave me a Jan 7 th CJO last week and a Jan 7th start with UPS ( in pool for 6 months )
I am military ( flying reservist) and would happily love in one of the AA domiciles but am not sure yet about the UPS ones.
Looking for thoughts from people at UPS about commuting ( from va beach specifically) QOL, projected seniority .. anything really
Thanks in advance.
#3
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After unsuccessful interviews with united and fedex this spring, I am faced with deciding between AA that gave me a Jan 7 th CJO last week and a Jan 7th start with UPS ( in pool for 6 months )
I am military ( flying reservist) and would happily love in one of the AA domiciles but am not sure yet about the UPS ones.
Looking for thoughts from people at UPS about commuting ( from va beach specifically) QOL, projected seniority .. anything really
Thanks in advance.
After unsuccessful interviews with united and fedex this spring, I am faced with deciding between AA that gave me a Jan 7 th CJO last week and a Jan 7th start with UPS ( in pool for 6 months )
I am military ( flying reservist) and would happily love in one of the AA domiciles but am not sure yet about the UPS ones.
Looking for thoughts from people at UPS about commuting ( from va beach specifically) QOL, projected seniority .. anything really
Thanks in advance.
#4
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We’ve covered QOL, commuting, realistic pay expectations, upgrade times, seniority progression, and lots more in these threads over the past few years. Browse through thread titles, search posts by myself, FTFF, BoilerUp, Whalesurfer, saltydog, 767pilot, (ignore pastV1by10), and some of the others and you will have more I formation that you are even asking for but a very realistic and informed picture to work with.
Best of luck.
Best of luck.
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You will not go wrong with either. The differentiators with Brown: you will make more money quicker and you will have a pension. Downside, if not your thing, you will fly mostly between 10pm and 6am. Of course there is day flying, but it will take a bit of time to hold it consistently.
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Schedules too: we tend to do longer blocks on the road with associated longer blocks at home. Good for commuters.
Intl: we typically stay in theatre doing hub stuff in Asia or Europe, loops around continents, or around the world strings. Very little out and backs.
No travel bennies beyond some zed fares but with a little effort you can get mid to high level status with an airline of your choice and buy tickets / use miles when you need to go somewhere.
The environment / work experience loosely resembles a mil operation. Van rides to your plane, operations locations not fancy - outright dumps in a couple places, there are never customers anywhere near our operations so it’s totally different than the pax side. Easier, less BS: security, pee when you want, fly in your pajamas, cook brauts on flights out of Germany, etc...
Intl: we typically stay in theatre doing hub stuff in Asia or Europe, loops around continents, or around the world strings. Very little out and backs.
No travel bennies beyond some zed fares but with a little effort you can get mid to high level status with an airline of your choice and buy tickets / use miles when you need to go somewhere.
The environment / work experience loosely resembles a mil operation. Van rides to your plane, operations locations not fancy - outright dumps in a couple places, there are never customers anywhere near our operations so it’s totally different than the pax side. Easier, less BS: security, pee when you want, fly in your pajamas, cook brauts on flights out of Germany, etc...
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After unsuccessful interviews with united and fedex this spring, I am faced with deciding between AA that gave me a Jan 7 th CJO last week and a Jan 7th start with UPS ( in pool for 6 months )
I am military ( flying reservist) and would happily love in one of the AA domiciles but am not sure yet about the UPS ones.
Looking for thoughts from people at UPS about commuting ( from va beach specifically) QOL, projected seniority .. anything really
Thanks in advance.
After unsuccessful interviews with united and fedex this spring, I am faced with deciding between AA that gave me a Jan 7 th CJO last week and a Jan 7th start with UPS ( in pool for 6 months )
I am military ( flying reservist) and would happily love in one of the AA domiciles but am not sure yet about the UPS ones.
Looking for thoughts from people at UPS about commuting ( from va beach specifically) QOL, projected seniority .. anything really
Thanks in advance.
#8
you should spend 3-4 days jumpseating around the system and sleeping during the day. If you don't, you have no idea what your are getting into compared to AA. Our life is mostly second and third shift work.
Not having PAX is great, flying nights? won't know until you do it for awhile.
Not having PAX is great, flying nights? won't know until you do it for awhile.
#9
UPS is the easiest commute I’ve ever had in my career. Private message me and I’ll be happy to explain why. It’s not something passenger carrier commuters think about. It is dependent on your outstation though of course. But man there are some good ones. I commuted to EWR, ORD and IAH for 10 years when I flew passengers and that took more years off my life than ever flying at night.
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