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Old 01-25-2019, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by gsphuntr View Post
Just based on my observation in the last 2.5 years here ... MIA is very senior at the top. However, the bottom 1/4 or so seems to be a revolving door, so, if you get 75/6 in initial - it’s not unrealistic to expect MIA either immediately, or within the first 12 months. You’ll be doing S/Central America midnight turns or night domestic sort lines out of the same 4-6 airports... and that’s about it.

Chilling at home on reserve? Or the South American booty tours? Get in line... it’ll be a decade+ minimum..
Absolutely.
You DO NOT want MIA if you’re on the bottom of the list unless you live 10 minutes from the airport. Those night turns would be brutal.
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Old 01-25-2019, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by trackpilot View Post
Absolutely.
You DO NOT want MIA if you’re on the bottom of the list unless you live 10 minutes from the airport. Those night turns would be brutal.
35 minute drive, but still wouldn’t do that to myself. Let’s see when the time comes!
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Old 01-25-2019, 04:26 PM
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Which equates to a 6 year upgrade if you consider after 2007 the next new hire class wasn’t until 2014.
Ah.....NO I don't think so
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Old 01-25-2019, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by trackpilot View Post
Which equates to a 6 year upgrade if you consider after 2007 the next new hire class wasn’t until 2014.
You think 2020 for the first 2014 hires to get an upgrade chance ?

Possible

Depends on the size and timing of the next bid in 2019. Number of bypasses, and a few other variables.

As the average age of the senior FOs currently bypassing the upgrade pushes closer to 60, the number that continue to bypass will decrease. That could have an affect on the "juniority" of upgrades.

Interesting times.
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Old 01-25-2019, 05:02 PM
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We’re scheduled to take delivery of 21 more growth airframes in the next 23 months, so barring economic calamity that causes some current planes to get retired, 2014 hires holding a CA seat somewhere in the system by year-end 2020 seems to be a very real possibility.

Time will tell...
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Old 01-25-2019, 10:54 PM
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What’s the commute like from PBI or FLL to SDF? Would it be easier to just drive to MIA to commute?

How is the SDF crashpad situation?
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Old 01-26-2019, 12:04 AM
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I think it is important to add that thanks to the IPA and the men and women who BUILT this airline from the ground up....

Brown is not a destination that everyone is clamoring to upgrade at. 2nd year FOs can almost see 200k if they want to work extra. Unless you’re just a control freak and you can’t stand sitting in the right seat, life here as a moderately senior FO is as sweet as it gets.


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How is the SDF crashpad situation?

Not an issue... plentiful.



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Old 01-26-2019, 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP View Post
We’re scheduled to take delivery of 21 more growth airframes in the next 23 months, so barring economic calamity that causes some current planes to get retired....Time will tell...
Don’t think you need much of a calamity. Just a little slowdown, and say a new competitor taking ground in the market -could easily make the MDs go away much sooner than anticipated. Suddenly those shiny new 74’s and 76’s aren’t growth airframes after all.

And what’s a 2014 hire going to upgrade into anyway? A slightly bigger paycheck with crap qol, working the worst brown has to offer? IMO, until the 74 comes to SDF the 2014/5 crowd will have to wait 8-10 + years to have a little buffer under them in the L seat seniority list to make an upgrade palatable.
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Old 01-26-2019, 01:03 AM
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What’s the commute like from PBI or FLL to SDF? Would it be easier to just drive to MIA to commute?

How is the SDF crashpad situation?
PBI is a commuter rich environment but I've never left anyone behind there... and I've always had at least 2 seats remaining open.
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