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Old 04-11-2019, 03:41 AM   #41  
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Night turns out of MIA has you working 10 days a month? Am I reading this correctly?
Pure night turn lines yes, 10 turns in a 28 day bid period. We have a few less pure night turn lines now, they are sprinkling those turns on other lines as well.
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Old 04-11-2019, 09:14 PM   #42  
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Pure night turn lines yes, 10 turns in a 28 day bid period. We have a few less pure night turn lines now, they are sprinkling those turns on other lines as well.
Thatís not too bad.. 🤔 10 nights a month might be something to consider.

Never been a big fan of night freight, but if UPS coming calling, Iím not gonna say no haha
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Pure night turn lines yes, 10 turns in a 28 day bid period. We have a few less pure night turn lines now, they are sprinkling those turns on other lines as well.
I'm a night owl, this is a dream come true. And I live 25 minutes from MIA.👍🏽
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Old 09-15-2019, 09:11 AM   #44  
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Would anyone mind sharing some intel regarding aircraft assignment, bases, and type of flying?

From what I've gathered so far...

A300 - SDF only flying mostly domestic night turns

B75/76 - SDF and MIA flying both Domestic and Int'l. What does "Z" mean?

MD-11 - SDF and ANC

B747 - ANC and now SDF flying Int'l

Also, I've been noticing last classes have been assigned A300 or B75/6.

I appreciate the insights! Cheers
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Would anyone mind sharing some intel regarding aircraft assignment, bases, and type of flying?

From what I've gathered so far...

A300 - SDF only flying mostly domestic night turns

B75/76 - SDF and MIA flying both Domestic and Int'l. What does "Z" mean?

MD-11 - SDF and ANC

B747 - ANC

Also, I've been noticing last classes have been assigned A300 or B75/6.

I appreciate the insights! Cheers
A300 - add Canada Mexico. They also do turns and other mixed type stuff.

75/76 SDF - is like the A300 stuff. I believe it has more day flying options.

76Z = SDf 75/76 international qualified. Lots of international but domestic stuff also finds its way to the fleet. International has a lot of longer work blocks.

75/76 ONT - does a little intl (mostly Asia?) but they also flow through SDF allowing the company to get around some work rule protections SDF crews would otherwise have flying the same trips out of SDF, based on time of day operations (west coast time zone effect on east coast flying).

75/76 MIA, see above posts.

MD = SDF only, ANC closes very soon. Mostly domestic with some international remaining. Does cologne and Hawaii shorter trips. Domestic stuff looks like A300.

74 ANC only for now. SDF base next year and no one knows the initial size but it will go fairly senior. Rumors SDF crews will do more domestic type flying. OTW mostly flying Int'l in various block lengths. 24 hour layovers plague most of the pairings.

Class assignments are always bouncing around. With the new sdf 74 base thereís bound to be a little shakeup in the status quo.
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Would anyone mind sharing some intel regarding aircraft assignment, bases, and type of flying?

From what I've gathered so far...

A300 - SDF only flying mostly domestic night turns

B75/76 - SDF and MIA flying both Domestic and Int'l. What does "Z" mean?

MD-11 - SDF and ANC

B747 - ANC and now SDF flying Int'l

Also, I've been noticing last classes have been assigned A300 or B75/6.

I appreciate the insights! Cheers
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Z is 75/76 international... otherwise known jokingly as zomestic since it isn't pure international. A good portion of the flying is domestic.

A-300 and 75/76 SDF (domestic, ie... non-Z) are relatively similar and I wouldn't say that they are mostly domestic night turns. There is a pretty good mix of morning turns, afternoon turns, chunks (5-7 day) of sort flying both day and night, and shorter, choppier schedules.

MD-11 ANC base is shutting down planes and crew compliment moving to SDF.

747 SDF is opening but is anticipated to be extremely senior... the seniority list is going to shift around -- where it settles only time will tell.

No one really knows what HR is thinking and they aren't sharing; 74 training is still relatively backed up. My guess is that they want to clear the backlog and get the bid out to see where the chips fall before potentially unnecessarily training and then retraining crewmembers who decide to take advantage of the seat lock lift and rebid. So, recently they have focused new hires on the path of least resistance which is the Bus and 75/76.

Just one dudes uninformed, uneducated, outside HR/training perspective.
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A300 - add Canada Mexico. They also do turns and other mixed type stuff.

75/76 SDF - is like the A300 stuff. I believe it has more day flying options.

76Z = SDf 75/76 international qualified. Lots of international but domestic stuff also finds its way to the fleet. International has a lot of longer work blocks.

75/76 ONT - does a little intl (mostly Asia?) but they also flow through SDF allowing the company to get around some work rule protections SDF crews would otherwise have flying the same trips out of SDF, based on time of day operations (west coast time zone effect on east coast flying).

75/76 MIA, see above posts.

MD = SDF only, ANC closes very soon. Mostly domestic with some international remaining. Does cologne and Hawaii shorter trips. Domestic stuff looks like A300.

74 ANC only for now. SDF base next year and no one knows the initial size but it will go fairly senior. Rumors SDF crews will do more domestic type flying. OTW mostly flying Int'l in various block lengths. 24 hour layovers plague most of the pairings.

Class assignments are always bouncing around. With the new sdf 74 base thereís bound to be a little shakeup in the status quo.
What he said!!
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From what I've heard, day turn lines and reserve lines are 14 days on in a 28 day period and night turn lines are 11 days on. What are the length of trips if you arent doing turn lines? For example, ONT, SDF, MIA 75/76 are there pairings out there where you're on the road for a few days? If one is given the 747, how are those pairings out of ANC? Week on week off kind of thing?
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Turn lines for SDF Bus, 757 and MD, be them morning or afternoon, are typically built to 12 duty days in a 28 day duty period with most weekend days off. Afternoon turns as a whole tend to run senior to morning turns.

Reserve all fleets is built for 14 duty days in a 28 day pay period, with various block lengths of RSV days.

SDF domestic night sort lines are all over the dang place...standard lines tend to be close to week on/off, day sort lines have trips ranging from 2-7 days, and Base Trip Lines are generally blocks of short trips back-to-back after 12-30 hours off in domicile.
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Old 09-15-2019, 10:25 AM   #50  
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Turn lines for SDF Bus and 767, be them morning or afternoon, are typically built to 12 duty days in a 28 day duty period with most weekend days off. Afternoon turns as a whole tend to run senior to morning turns.

Reserve is built for 14 duty days in a 28 day pay period.

SDF domestic sort lines are all over the dang place...
Thanks for the info! Of those days on, either the 14 on reserve, and 12 for turns, how are the stretch of days on. Something like 3-4 days a week? How many days off does one typically get in between working days.

Thanks for all the great info
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