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kronan 04-01-2019 05:40 AM

Reserve Rules
 
Wondering what Reserve is like at SDF for you guys.

Much angst at the fact FedEx doesn’t have a SC/LC like industry standard at Memphis.
But rather 1.5 notifications bracketed over 12 hour windows splitting the day.
13% of our Reserve lines are also 24 hr notice, often brought in for 2-4 days of HSBY (with per diem paid over the footprint)

BoilerUP 04-01-2019 09:55 AM

RSVA (0000-1159 local)
RSVB (1200-2359 local)
RSVC (1600-0359 local)
RSVD (0400-1559 local), don't think there's any of this in SDF but could be wrong

There are also Blank Reserve lines where the company can basically build a reserve schedule after reserve days drop due to conflict, and Airport/Hot Standby Lines.

On VTO lines, there can be Long Call-Out, where a crewmember is notified between 0800-1400 local with a minimum 16:00 notification prior to report, and there are also a subset of VTO lines called VTOR that can include trips, callout reserve, and standbys (but no LCO).

What kind of "angst" is going on over 'der with regards to reserve?

pony172 04-01-2019 10:56 AM

We also have 1.5 hour notification to be at the airport. The long call out (LCO) can also be assigned multiple trips at once that cover their on call days. We also only sit reserve for Max 14 out of 28 days, unless you get extended. Rarely happens on my fleet and you get paid a little extra if it does. I've won more than I've lost sitting reserve here. Senior guys have noticed that and I can't even touch it now. The VTOR lines can be a mix of everything. For a junior guy like me they are usually a gold mine. For the record, some of the VTOR lines on the bus had LCO built into them this bid period.

BoilerUP 04-01-2019 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by pony172
For the record, some of the VTOR lines on the bus had LCO built into them this bid period.

That would be a violation of 'VTO line' in Article 2:

VTO lines - a line of time for a pay period which is so identified and published in the bid package without any trips or other duties assigned and with no days off assigned. Such lines will be filled with credit hours dropped due to vacations, training, long term sick/injury leave, leaves of absence, transition conflicts, charters, airport standby, other open time and LCO days. Further, a VTOR line will not contain LCO days, but may include reserve types “A”, “B”, “C”, or “D

kronan 04-01-2019 02:19 PM

FedEx is 15 R days in one of our 28 day bid months and 19 in a 35 day month.

Probably about a fourth to a third of the time I’ve sat out 24 hour call out the companies brought me in for a HSBY

We also have 2 Reserve windows bracketed by the 6’s. (0600-1800) But they’re seldom used currently.

We also tend to have 2-3 Airport Stby folks each day in Memphis. Early assignments on a normal reserve day, and often back filled if used.

Does UPS do anything similar as well?

BrownDoubles 04-01-2019 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by kronan (Post 2794182)
FedEx is 15 R days in one of our 28 day bid months and 19 in a 35 day month.

Probably about a fourth to a third of the time I’ve sat out 24 hour call out the companies brought me in for a HSBY

We also have 2 Reserve windows bracketed by the 6’s. (0600-1800) But they’re seldom used currently.

We also tend to have 2-3 Airport Stby folks each day in Memphis. Early assignments on a normal reserve day, and often back filled if used.

Does UPS do anything similar as well?

We have hot standby lines that are built... they add hots as they see fit to augment that.

pony172 04-02-2019 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 2794066)
That would be a violation of 'VTO line' in Article 2:

Further, a VTOR line will not contain LCO days, but may include reserve types “A”, “B”, “C”, or “D

Yeah, I see that from article 2 and I didn't see anything in article 13 that says they can't explicitly do it. Regardless, VTOR line 9 has a week of LCO and Line 11 is completely LCO. Something to ask the union about.

pony172 04-02-2019 08:57 AM

Asked the IPA about, and you are correct. No LCO allowed. They are on it now.

BoilerUP 04-02-2019 08:58 AM

Contract compliance, one pilot (and APC thread) at a time!:D:D:D

SaltyDog 04-02-2019 01:32 PM

UPS made an error, doubt it was intentional IMO.
LCO switched to RSV
Awardee wont get any days off. just switched to short RSV. Hope they live in domicile :)


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