Drunk UPS Captain arrested in cologne Germany
05-27-2019, 08:10 AM
#41
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Originally Posted by Parma3980
He blew an .16 showing up at work, got thrown in Jail. See how UPS spins this?
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05-27-2019, 08:11 AM
#42
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Drunk UPS Captain arrested in cologne Germany
Originally Posted by ftv3
very few would have known about it if you had the integrity to refrain from childish gossiping. Think a little beforehand of the effects you actions could have on others and the profession itself. Lastly, as a regional guy presumably trying to get on at the majors, i wouldn’t be posting stuff like this....
Bingo!! Anyone can have a bad day, issues at home, etc, we take care of each other.
05-27-2019, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by howardhughes8
Bingo!! Anyone can have a bad day, issues at home, etc, we take care of each other.
05-27-2019, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Swedish Blender
Crossing a ground side manager will get you a quicker trip to ATL.
No doubt. And any crew member who gets sideways with gateway personal IS asking for trouble. Being stupid isn’t a valid defense when in uniform or on company property. “Their circus, their ponies”.
However.... getting slap faced bazooka’d in some dive bar on a long layover is your business. As long as you aren’t wearing company logo apparel or bad mouthing Brown with a megaphone, you are free to destroy your liver as you see fit. And there is NOTHING the company can do to you unless you give them something. ie... starting a fight in a hotel lobby.
The idea that ground managers are “peeking behind the bushes”... is a joke. The IPA would take them head-on for off duty harassment if they tried to pull that crap.
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05-27-2019, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by robxjt27
DSM-IV and DSM-V defines exactly how psychologists, psychiatrists and medical professionals diagnose alcoholism. It’s pretty cut and dry.
https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/publicatio...on-between-dsm
https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/publicatio...on-between-dsm
Thanks for that post. Good to read. Just realized I am only a drunk. Phew
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05-27-2019, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Parma3980
He blew an .16 showing up at work, got thrown in Jail. See how UPS spins this?
05-27-2019, 06:31 PM
#47
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Originally Posted by G550Guy
No doubt. And any crew member who gets sideways with gateway personal IS asking for trouble. Being stupid isn’t a valid defense when in uniform or on company property. “Their circus, their ponies”.
However.... getting slap faced bazooka’d in some dive bar on a long layover is your business. As long as you aren’t wearing company logo apparel or bad mouthing Brown with a megaphone, you are free to destroy your liver as you see fit. And there is NOTHING the company can do to you unless you give them something. ie... starting a fight in a hotel lobby.
The idea that ground managers are “peeking behind the bushes”... is a joke. The IPA would take them head-on for off duty harassment if they tried to pull that crap.
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However.... getting slap faced bazooka’d in some dive bar on a long layover is your business. As long as you aren’t wearing company logo apparel or bad mouthing Brown with a megaphone, you are free to destroy your liver as you see fit. And there is NOTHING the company can do to you unless you give them something. ie... starting a fight in a hotel lobby.
The idea that ground managers are “peeking behind the bushes”... is a joke. The IPA would take them head-on for off duty harassment if they tried to pull that crap.
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05-29-2019, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Vito
Question,
If the pilot who blew the .16 and is currently arrested, volunteers to enter the HIMs program, can he/she keep their job at UPS?
If the pilot who blew the .16 and is currently arrested, volunteers to enter the HIMs program, can he/she keep their job at UPS?
If you even show for the van impaired/much less are in the airport going through security and get popped, you are done. That’s the threshold here. So entry into HIMS might get you out of bracelets and on an LOA, but you will lose your job following your suspension.
However, not having the UPS perspective, YMMV. Be nice to lose your ticket for overindulging and impaired on duty, yet get paid to hang at home.
Just my take.
05-29-2019, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by brownie
Too late...Hims is a self disclosed program...
Period.
Pilots have entered HIMS via Union intervention. It is rare to successfully enter HIMS post arrest (or comparable legal/HR scuds) when license revocation or suspension is imminent.
YMMV.
05-29-2019, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Prettywhacked1
Incorrect.
Pilots have entered HIMS via Union intervention.
YMMV.
Pilots have entered HIMS via Union intervention.
YMMV.
I will agree that there has been what some may consider coercion and threats in the past, but I am going to be surprised if you tell me that people have gone in against their ultimate wishes. I'd expect a pretty low success rate from people going in that didn't want to be there, to the point where UPS would not be wrong to refuse to pay for them.
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