JetBlue vs UPS
#22
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#23
I would submit even the 'kids' in the group are steadfast in support of maintaining/improving the FDA defined benefit.
#24
Both parties know the demographic on Retirement. Vast majority of pilots are over 45. Even the new hires. UPS has their reasons, but the flip side is they have set up a pilot group that demands that DBP continue to improve. Demographics are set: Overwhelming number of voters will not ratify as over 45 in age are super majority of next voters. An absolute pitch negotiation, not easy, but it will continue. A significant goal will be to keep only those on property with a DBP and no DBP for those not yet hired. Just like the old B scale in the industry they will want to turn the DBP off with the "not yet hired" approach.
#25
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I am a bit perplexed why UPS continues to hire “older” folks, unlike Delta, United, Fedex, which tend to hire younger.
I would say they are making the problem worse with the pilot shortage, by hiring younger the operator locks in a longer period of time the pilot will serve, therefore not falling into the same problem in the future.
Obviously we don’t have the UPS magic ball, but any opinions?
I would say they are making the problem worse with the pilot shortage, by hiring younger the operator locks in a longer period of time the pilot will serve, therefore not falling into the same problem in the future.
Obviously we don’t have the UPS magic ball, but any opinions?
#28
I am a bit perplexed why UPS continues to hire “older” folks, unlike Delta, United, Fedex, which tend to hire younger.
I would say they are making the problem worse with the pilot shortage, by hiring younger the operator locks in a longer period of time the pilot will serve, therefore not falling into the same problem in the future.
Obviously we don’t have the UPS magic ball, but any opinions?
I would say they are making the problem worse with the pilot shortage, by hiring younger the operator locks in a longer period of time the pilot will serve, therefore not falling into the same problem in the future.
Obviously we don’t have the UPS magic ball, but any opinions?
#29
Most “younger” pilots (<40 and definitely <35) want to be at Delta and United because its more of what they know if coming from the regional world, and many younger pilots have been scared away from UPS because of posts right here on APC.
I’d also surmise many see the retirement waves happening at DAL/UAL/AAL/FDX and want in on that, rather than our own massive wave that starts in earnest a few years later than the others.
I’d also surmise many see the retirement waves happening at DAL/UAL/AAL/FDX and want in on that, rather than our own massive wave that starts in earnest a few years later than the others.
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