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Old 06-18-2019, 12:48 PM   #1  
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Curious if anyone has ever made such transition on year 1-3 at B6? What are the pro and cons?
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Curious if anyone has ever made such transition on year 1-3 at B6? What are the pro and cons?

Guy in my class came from B6... I believe he was at year 4 or 5. Cpt on the 190.... heís glad he made the move. Sorry I canít offer more intel. Iíll ask him if heís on APC.


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One guy in my new hire class was from JetBlue, donít remember how many years in. Income wise, you would make back the income hit very quickly.
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Stay at JetBlue, amazon isnít getting into the airline business.
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Guy in my class came from B6... I believe he was at year 4 or 5. Cpt on the 190.... heís glad he made the move. Sorry I canít offer more intel. Iíll ask him if heís on APC.


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Oh wow. Iím assuming this was before B6 got their first contract last summer? If it was a couple of years ago Iím sure he could be a year 6 or 7 A320 Captain making $248/instead of $175ish as a UPS FO but a lot more than just money goes into those type of decisions.

To the OP: Iím a SDF native but live on one of the coasts now. I also have family flying at brown but Iím at B6. First year at JB is $43/hr higher but after that UPS is consistently $35-40/hr higher year after year. That adds up! But neither will have you in the poor house with captains at the top of the scale taking home $270k vs $310k at min guarantee as things stand now.

Iíd say lifestyle is the biggest difference. UPS is probably more commuter friendly and has great long trips as well as shorter hub turning stuff that sounds tougher to me but I hear more local guys love it. JB has your standard 3-4 on 3-4 off schedule of mostly 3 and 4 day trips with some 1, 2 and 5 days (UPS has all these trip lengths and then some) and has you working typically working 13-14 days a month. I like 1,2 or 3 day trips to keep my nights away from at a minimum but I know most guys that donít live in base like longer trips to reduce number of commutes.

JB has never furloughed...until they do of course. Theyíve got 85 321NEOís coming as growth starting this month as well as higher paying A220ís to replace the 190 starting next year. UPS has a lot of growth coming too with -8 orders and 767ís plus retirements really start to kick off in a couple of years so movement should be good at either. Id say you are very lucky if youíve got the choice between the two!

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Oh wow. Iím assuming this was before B6 got their first contract last summer? If it was a couple of years ago Iím sure he could be a year 6 or 7 A320 Captain making $248/instead of $175ish as a UPS FO but a lot more than just money goes into those type of decisions.

To the OP: Iím a SDF native but live on one of the coasts now. I also have family flying at brown but Iím at B6. First year at JB is $43/hr higher but after that UPS is consistently $35-40/hr higher year after year. That adds up! But neither will have you in the poor house with captains at the top of the scale taking home $270k vs $310k at min guarantee as things stand now.

Iíd say lifestyle is the biggest difference. UPS is probably more commuter friendly and has great long trips as well as shorter hub turning stuff that sounds tougher to me but I hear more local guys love it. JB has your standard 3-4 on 3-4 off schedule of mostly 3 and 4 day trips with some 1, 2 and 5 days (UPS has all these trip lengths and then some) and has you working typically working 13-14 days a month. I like 1,2 or 3 day trips to keep my nights away from at a minimum but I know most guys that donít live in base like longer trips to reduce number of commutes.

JB has never furloughed...until they do of course. Theyíve got 85 321NEOís coming as growth starting this month as well as higher paying A220ís to replace the 190 starting next year. UPS has a lot of growth coming too with -8 orders and 767ís plus retirements really start to kick off in a couple of years so movement should be good at either. Id say you are very lucky if youíve got the choice between the two!
Thanks for the insight, I live in South FL.
Driving to work is nice. The variety of flying is appealing at Brown but commuting to ANC isn't.
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Thanks for the insight, I live in South FL.
Driving to work is nice. The variety of flying is appealing at Brown but commuting to ANC isn't.
Good deal. I think both offer great South Florida living.

Iím still new to B6 so take everything I said with a grain of salt but I think it was more or less true. Your thread resonated with me because UPS is my hometown airline and Iíd be lying if I said I hadnít given the comparison some thought. Iím not interested in moving back home to Louisville but UPS was what I grew up knowing. Overall Iím really liking JB and think itís a great time to get on with all the hiring weíre doing.

I think now that there is a CBA in place at JB, as time goes on itís going to keep getting better much like a career at UPS has only gotten better and better over time.
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A plan, B plan, OCV (vacation)... the advantages of UPS go well beyond top end CA pay.
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A plan, B plan, OCV (vacation)... the advantages of UPS go well beyond top end CA pay.
Agreed- I know 3 guys here at B6 desperate to get to UPS. They are all around the 2 year mark though.
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