Mudhen2000

I’m hoping they kept their original submission and just re-submit. I actually have a copy of two of the four. Fingers crossed I get a call between now and December 31st. Will buy beer for job at UPS!

SaltyDog

UPS has the original LOR. UPS has all your information. Why do they choose this method? No clue. ATL corporate controls much of the things we do in the airline. Your internals should repeat the original LOR at minimum or be even stronger. If they do, then UPS likely scores that as they still want you and you still want it because all had to repeat their efforts because UPS can force folks too. Loyalty and commitment gates perhaps
Wish you success

Jetjok

Is that a six pack, or just one can?

MrBobRoss

Would love to interview before that though. With four internals is a career fair necessary?[/QUOTE]

A career fair costs $200 to get face time with the people who choose whether or not you seem like a good fit. I don’t know of anyone who got hired recently who didn’t attend a job fair. Everybody has a friend or friends who work here. This is an elite company and they can afford to be very choosy and have thousands of applicants. If you really want this, you’ve got to show them and that means AT THE VERY LEAST, a job fair attendance.

CactusCrew

Yes !

Mudhen2000

I understand the importance of meeting a recruiter in person. However, I am deploying right up until my terminal retirement date and the UPS internal recommendation process is very in-depth for one to write and submit. Four people going through that process should weigh a lot IMO. I was just wondering if people get hired without going? Also, this year was out of the ordinary with all of the fairs being on the west coast, which defiantly costs more than $200 when you throw on airfare, hotel, meals, etc...

If a career fair attendance is what proves interest, then i will attend the March WIAI. Thank you for the insight. WIAI in March is the next one and with deploying that puts me at my availability date. Would love another way to prove my desire for the job. Just want a chance to get my application and resume looked at. Thank you.

tnkrdrvr

Mudhen,

I definitely sympathize with you on the cost of doing the job fair. Not everyone who is hired (at least in my new hire class) attends one. If you haven’t heard from the company by February, I would spend the money for the fair. Also, make sure you are applying to all the legacies, SW, and FedEx. HR can be fickle, but it’s a good bet at least one other company will call. More options are always better.

MrBobRoss

I definitely agree. If you think of it like some people spend ~80k on grad school without a guaranteed job at the end of it, the cost of a job fair (you’re right- it is a bit higher when factoring in transportation, hotel, food, etc.) is still a minuscule fraction of the cost with statistically greater yield. The other great thing is you get to know the companies a bit better and ask questions with immediate, real time answers. Having four internal rec’s is a good testament to you, absolutely; but attending the job fair when you get back I think would really serve you well. Good luck on your tour, stay safe and fingers are crossed for you!

SaltyDog

Dont disagree. You are using pilot logic. Throw it out. This is HR and corporate ego logic. Once sorta, kinda understand those two elements, you understand why you hear advice.
Numerous LORS terrific, but can tell you, that the numbers are not as importation as the one writing. The newer the person, the better the chance that HR (my observation) etc thinks they are a better rec as they may have hired the writer, thus your value goes up. Same with attending a job fair. Its not a way to prove commitment, it is simply a way to improve your meeting a decision maker in person. That is the marked difference.
Expensive and time consuming, but targeted efforts with high pay off potential better than lottery tickets
Best of luck

ckap130

Mudhen,

The job fair is a must. And it may take more than one. Do people get hired here without it, sure, but they are the exception and not the rule. There are a TON of well qualified guys from both Mil and Civ backgrounds trying to get the call for an interview. The way you set your self apart from the pack is by making a personal connection with one of the HR folks and that happens at the job fair. I have recommended 3 buddies for jobs here and all 3 got called, but only after they attended job fairs. Pretty small investment for a really big payoff. The recommendations are great, but honestly most people have LORs so that does really set you apart as much as you might think. Job Fair Job Fair Job Fair...Go early go often!