IPA Demographics, Growth & Attrition Reports
01-22-2020, 02:33 AM
#31
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2013
Posts: 1,339
Originally Posted by Flybynight101
I sincerely hope you run for an EB position when the time comes to replace our current EB. I was hired shortly after you but always appreciated your no BS, fact driven posts.
Thank you...”Captain xyz”
Thank you...”Captain xyz”
Not sure if posting names is necessary though?
01-23-2020, 07:21 AM
#34
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Joined APC: Feb 2013
Posts: 1,339
Originally Posted by BoilerUP
I laughed 
..and it’s all good flybynight - the comment was more about the fact some people care while others don’t when their names are being mentioned. Know of two former contributors who are no longer on APC for that reason.
Take care.
02-19-2020, 04:23 AM
#35
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Joined APC: Jul 2019
Posts: 68
So I ran some numbers, and correct me if I’m wrong. But for a new hire that starts in 2020, it seems like the upgrade time will still be about 10 years. Using the current fleet count and pilots year end 2019, it’s about an 11 crew per plane utilization. So one would have to be around a 1550 seniority number to hold junior upgrade. Based on just mandatory retirements, my math shows around 10 years.
Again in that’s just going off these charts and the mandatory retirements I see on APC. Obviously early retirements will skew things and FOs who bypass. But this info is just on what’s given and what is guaranteed. I’d be curious to know what current percentage of FOs are bypassing and if there is a percentage of FOs who are sitting right seat until retirement due simply to QOL.
Dont attack me 🙈
Again in that’s just going off these charts and the mandatory retirements I see on APC. Obviously early retirements will skew things and FOs who bypass. But this info is just on what’s given and what is guaranteed. I’d be curious to know what current percentage of FOs are bypassing and if there is a percentage of FOs who are sitting right seat until retirement due simply to QOL.
Dont attack me 🙈
02-19-2020, 04:38 AM
#36
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Posts: 919
Originally Posted by Chris25
So I ran some numbers, and correct me if I’m wrong. But for a new hire that starts in 2020, it seems like the upgrade time will still be about 10 years. Using the current fleet count and pilots year end 2019, it’s about an 11 crew per plane utilization. So one would have to be around a 1550 seniority number to hold junior upgrade. Based on just mandatory retirements, my math shows around 10 years.
Again in that’s just going off these charts and the mandatory retirements I see on APC. Obviously early retirements will skew things and FOs who bypass. But this info is just on what’s given and what is guaranteed. I’d be curious to know what current percentage of FOs are bypassing and if there is a percentage of FOs who are sitting right seat until retirement due simply to QOL.
Dont attack me 🙈
Again in that’s just going off these charts and the mandatory retirements I see on APC. Obviously early retirements will skew things and FOs who bypass. But this info is just on what’s given and what is guaranteed. I’d be curious to know what current percentage of FOs are bypassing and if there is a percentage of FOs who are sitting right seat until retirement due simply to QOL.
Dont attack me 🙈
02-19-2020, 04:39 AM
#37
The NeverEnding Story
Thread Starter
Joined APC: Sep 2005
Posts: 7,504
Junior CA award on the November 2019 bid was in the 70% ballpark and 4.5 years on property. 65-70% has been seniority for junior CA award for the last 5 or so years.
I don’t have my figures in front of me, but we’ll take delivery of something like 26 growth airframes 2020-2022, 13 of which come this year. Those growth airframes will have to be staffed...
Average retirement age is 63(ish), and our mandatory retirement bubble doesn’t really begin until 2024 after which we’ll mandatory retire 100+ for over a decade. We retired 3x mandatory retirements in 2019 and have done 2x mandatory retirements in 2017 and 2018...2020 looks to be on pace for at least 2x as well.
I don’t have my figures in front of me, but we’ll take delivery of something like 26 growth airframes 2020-2022, 13 of which come this year. Those growth airframes will have to be staffed...
Average retirement age is 63(ish), and our mandatory retirement bubble doesn’t really begin until 2024 after which we’ll mandatory retire 100+ for over a decade. We retired 3x mandatory retirements in 2019 and have done 2x mandatory retirements in 2017 and 2018...2020 looks to be on pace for at least 2x as well.
02-19-2020, 06:41 AM
#39
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Joined APC: Oct 2019
Posts: 923
Originally Posted by Chris25
So I ran some numbers, and correct me if I’m wrong. But for a new hire that starts in 2020, it seems like the upgrade time will still be about 10 years. Using the current fleet count and pilots year end 2019, it’s about an 11 crew per plane utilization. So one would have to be around a 1550 seniority number to hold junior upgrade. Based on just mandatory retirements, my math shows around 10 years.
Again in that’s just going off these charts and the mandatory retirements I see on APC. Obviously early retirements will skew things and FOs who bypass. But this info is just on what’s given and what is guaranteed. I’d be curious to know what current percentage of FOs are bypassing and if there is a percentage of FOs who are sitting right seat until retirement due simply to QOL.
Dont attack me 🙈
Again in that’s just going off these charts and the mandatory retirements I see on APC. Obviously early retirements will skew things and FOs who bypass. But this info is just on what’s given and what is guaranteed. I’d be curious to know what current percentage of FOs are bypassing and if there is a percentage of FOs who are sitting right seat until retirement due simply to QOL.
Dont attack me 🙈
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