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Old 09-09-2020, 08:20 PM
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An ironic counterpoint to the airline exec who said there was no money in cargo. Evidently, UPS execs decided there was no money in pax. I think they both lack imagination on a truly diversified airline model, but I’m just an hourly worker.

What Happened To UPS’ Passenger Services? (Simple Flying, Sept. 9)


Did you know that, at one time, UPS (United Parcel Service) ran a passenger airline? What was it like, and what happened? Let’s explore.
UPS once ran a passenger service using its Boeing 727 fleet.
Why did UPS run passenger services?
UPS is a freight airline, running older aircraft like the Boeing 727 and others, overnight delivering freight around the world. However, back in the mid-90s, the team at UPS ran a program called the “Asset Utilization Experiment.”
Essentially, while the cargo aircraft were profitable and ran a tight operation, many planes sat idle over the weekends during the day as the package operation didn’t run. The team realized that they could use the aircraft to fly something else during the weekends, such as passengers.
Thus they put together an ambitious experiment to convert five Boeing 727 cargo aircraft back into passenger aircraft every Friday, fly chartered flights, and then return to cargo flights by Monday. Its target market would be travel agencies and other groups that needed to fly passengers, and as the carrier didn’t need to compete with scheduled weekend routes like mainline passenger carriers, they could beat any other quote.
What was it like to fly on UPS?
Part of the challenge was turning a cargo aircraft into a passenger plane and back again over a weekend. UPS insisted its engineers find a way that it could be done Friday night in just four hours.
The system they came up with was rather genius. As the planes could carry cargo pallets, the engineers built a series of pallets that had six seats and an aisle, that could be loaded through the cargo door and then rolled down to the cabin into position. For the overhead bins, the crews installed them during the same night and installed at the rear of the five aircraft two permanent toilets.
The planes’ interior was new and flashy, with blue seats and comfortable legroom (up to 33 inches of seat pitch, more than most carriers). The crew didn’t wear the brown uniforms of the package handling business, but a bright blue outfit with sunny ties.
For flight attendants, UPS hired experienced crew members from a talent agency (that specialized in private and charter flights). For pilots, they just used existing UPS pilots who jumped at the chance to have a ‘weekend airline pilot job.’ After all, flying passengers was almost identical to flying cargo – except with better food (the pilots ate what the passengers ate)!
“Outbound flights in the morning received a hot breakfast and beverage (the whole can was offered). Later in the flight, a wide assortment of snacks and beverages was served. Before landing, warm cloths were handed out to each passenger. Return flights were the same, except we served a lunch/dinner meal instead of breakfast.” UPS flight attendant speaking to Aerosavvy
“Most of our flights were pleasure trips, people going on vacation. So the atmosphere was fun and pleasant. We rarely had problems and when we did, they were handled very professionally and quickly. We had great crews and always had fun, but first and foremost, safety was our number one priority.”
What happened?
Alas, after operating the service for five years, UPS evaluated it and decided to return the aircraft to cargo-only operations. There were several reasons:
• The aircraft selected, the Boeing 727, ran into logistical problems such as not having enough range for all the contracts. Aircraft had to refuel on the way and this annoyed passengers.
• The wear and tear of converting the aircraft between cargo and passenger configurations created more problems and cost more in time and money the longer the operation went on.
• The Boeing 727s didn’t have the exact same size (they were built in an age lacking computer machinery), and thus, it was hard to fit in the precise seat pallets.
• Lastly, it didn’t earn as much money as packages – UPS decided it would just be easier to stay a cargo airline.
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Unfortunately, they had the wrong aircraft doing those trips. Had a few relatives use them to go to Mexico and had not so great experiences. Nice try by UPS, but it all would have probably ended after 9/11 anyway.
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Originally Posted by UPSFO4LIFE View Post
Unfortunately, they had the wrong aircraft doing those trips. Had a few relatives use them to go to Mexico and had not so great experiences. Nice try by UPS, but it all would have probably ended after 9/11 anyway.
I took two round trips to Cancun. Both were excellent, as good or better than the majors of the time. No refuel stop required. Only downside was that the removable seating modules had a floor that was 2 inches or so thick, which meant that the windows were too low to easily see from.
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FedEx tried the same back in the 80s.

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Competition had 2 engine, 2 crew sardine cans cutting the price.
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Originally Posted by threeighteen View Post
FedEx tried the same back in the 80s.

Did they use 727s as well? ..and where did they fly to?

I must say I can’t remember FedEx pax service? (except for their corporate division)
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