Rocket Bob

I’d say 5-7 more amazon years. No way they break up that quickly IMO

Noworkallplay

To be honest UPS may be in a good bargaining position with Amazon. They (Amazon) cant handle it all themselves and it appears Purple will not do their bidding anymore. Time to say pay X or take your crap down the road. No other ACMI has the ability to take that demand quickly. Plus the truck/delivery network UPS has cant be matched by the ACMI or Amazon quickly.

whalesurfer

Let’s not forget how we got here..

UPS, FedEx scramble to deliver delayed Christmas packages

PUBLISHED THU, DEC 26 2013 10:46 AM EST

https://www.cnbc.com/2013/12/26/ups-...-packages.html


From what I’ve been told by a Phoenix Amazon manager, 2013 is when Amazon decided to get into their own shipping business. Not because they wanted to but because we forced them into it.

Supposedly fdx over-promised the latest online purchases which could be delivered by Christmas. ..and apparently when Amazon reps reached out to ups our response was - if purple says they can so can we (even though we were already far behind our delivery schedules).
The truth is probably somewhere in the middle..

We all know how that worked out.. ..and the blame game which ensued..

Amazon is growing at an exponential rate. Not the end of the world but we are helping them to grow at such a rate by carrying their goods right now. 3-5 years after we go separate ways they’ll start competing with fdx and ups for traditionally “our” shipments. By then they’ll have enough spare volume..

The sooner we cut the ties the better for our future.

jetlaggy

This is most surely the last “new domicile” bid. Get it in all you relocaters. Esp the senior fo bypassers. 😝

Noworkallplay

Not trying to be snarky, but nothing you responded with changes what I said. Amazon cant ship all those trinkets themselves in the near future. So UPS has bargaining power. FDX has nothing to do with the subject I was talking on. They got out of that abusive relationship. They still get some action from the ex but on their terms and its a no strings attached one night stand when it happens.

C2078

We went backwards, April 2007 was junior upgrade 😱. Junior A300 Capt went June 1997 (backfill) 😱.

fightandflight

This bid seemed to be focused on our senior fleets - Z and SDF 74. Lots of new Captains for them, lots of bypassers upgrading, and lots of upward movement (finally) for us lowly z FOs. Those fleets moved that much closer to the gap years so I wouldn’t say we moved backwards, there just weren’t enough vacancies on junior fleets to overcome senior FO upgrades. I imagine the next bid will start filling domestic seats again and the bar will move lower.

jetlaggy

Makes sense with 747s and 767s still on order.

DangaZone

...and don't forget, an Airbus sim down for mod to EPIC and soon 2-3 airframes at a time down for avionics conversion.

FTv3

Nothing UPS can’t handle! 🙄