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Old 06-18-2021, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by UnusualAttitude View Post
They’re advertising that that 777-300ERSF will have 25% more volume available in comparison to the production 777F.

However, it will only have a MGTOW that’s 9k lbs more than the 777F.

777F MGTOW = 766k lbs
777-300ERSF MGTOW = 775k lbs

Would be a good jet for routes where cube out occurs before weight becomes limiting.
Agree, the 400 and -8 are the heavy lifters, and great for the heavy China routes. With the huge misstep of turning down the last 4 -8s, the converted 777 will be plentiful and fill the niche the MD does well in. (I also wonder if weights get "bought up" as the conversion gets some time under it's belt)
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Old 06-18-2021, 05:08 PM
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So we are not getting the last 4 of the 28 we ordered? Or were we offered 4 more and we said nah?

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Old 06-18-2021, 05:31 PM
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So we are not getting the last 4 of the 28 we ordered? Or were we offered 4 more and we said nah?

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I believe we turned 4 additional 8’s down
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Old 06-18-2021, 06:09 PM
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Atlas grabbed them up when we said no thanks.
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Old 06-18-2021, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by MD11Simnerd View Post
My bet is 777-300 converted, Connie is the first conversion customer, and they carry way more than the 777-200
The converted 777 freighter will carry more bulk (obviously) due to it be 33’ longer. However, that equates to a substantial increase in BOW vs. the factory freighter plus the -300ER has a lower MLW than the factory freighter which means less usable payload at a higher fuel burn due to the higher BOW. It will be cheaper to acquire though.
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Originally Posted by jetlaggy View Post
Ordered 10. options for 140. delivery in 2024

https://www.seattletimes.com/busines...ts-facilities/
Article is a dead link. What did it refer to?
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Originally Posted by UPSFO4LIFE View Post
I believe we turned 4 additional 8’s down

Thank you! That’s what I thought I’d heard, but I flew with a captain last week who said she “canceled the last 4”. Think he just misspoke! Would have been myopic to cancel anything IMHO. Should have taken the last 4. Sometimes bigger is better.


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Old 06-19-2021, 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by robxjt27 View Post
Article is a dead link. What did it refer to?

the ordering of the ejets

https://www.ttnews.com/articles/ups-...een-facilities
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Old 06-19-2021, 07:38 AM
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doesn't an airline need to place orders for new jets ahead of time, before you actually need them?

3 years is not very far away in aviation terms.

introducing a new aircraft model (777, etc.) into the fleet, doesn't that require FAA sign-off of the training program, revisions to ops-specs, sims, maintenance policies, etc? again, 3 years.

will be interesting to see how this plays out
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Old 06-19-2021, 07:47 AM
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That could already be happening. Or cold be just more 767s.
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doesn't an airline need to place orders for new jets ahead of time, before you actually need them?

3 years is not very far away in aviation terms.

introducing a new aircraft model (777, etc.) into the fleet, doesn't that require FAA sign-off of the training program, revisions to ops-specs, sims, maintenance policies, etc? again, 3 years.

will be interesting to see how this plays out
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