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Night_Hawk 08-16-2021 04:17 AM


Originally Posted by MD11Simnerd (Post 3279197)
I could be totally wrong on my info, before my time and am sure you are correct.. But 400 with only the old training center and the off property 74 classic sim, makes you go hmm. SDF, MIA, ANC sims now... The training pipeline issue is solvable

They did have the DC-8 and 727 then, so that would have contributed to the larger amount of training available.
I believe in 2006 there were 400+ new hires also

MD11Simnerd 08-16-2021 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by Night_Hawk (Post 3280202)
They did have the DC-8 and 727 then, so that would have contributed to the larger amount of training available.
I believe in 2006 there were 400+ new hires also

Understand, but the total number of sims available now is much greater. 767 where the 72 sim sat, one of the A-300 sims where the DC8 sat, a second A-300 sim, 74 (s) IN ANC (second 74 sim soon), 3or 4 sims in across from the GOC in the new building, MIA recurrent in MIA for some crews and 74 sim available in MIA too if they book it. I remember the training in 2006, I was teaching in the MD sim from midnight to 4 am consistently.

Last summer, I was literally the only crewmember going through MD initial, literally. I watched the 747 sim in the GAT sit for hours unused while the B&G said the schoolhouse was over run. This problem is UPS's direct decision to not utilize the hard assets and under-staff the airline and instructor/IOE IPA staff. They have volunteers they refuse to train even to this day because of "xxx".

This is a solvable problem, and UPS has tackled it in the past, I have seen it. Some of the sim times might not be the greatest, but it can be done if they want to.

767pilot 08-16-2021 12:57 PM

Boeing rep at OSH hinted that we'd be buying - 400 airframe h conversions in Isreal from British Airways and Lufthansa. Only part that didn't make sense was BA having Rolls Royce engines

jetlaggy 08-16-2021 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by 767pilot (Post 3280365)
Boeing rep at OSH hinted that we'd be buying - 400 airframe h conversions in Isreal from British Airways and Lufthansa. Only part that didn't make sense was BA having Rolls Royce engines


On the 757/767 fleet we have Pratt, Rolls And GE engines…not a prob.

Precontact 08-16-2021 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by 767pilot (Post 3280365)
Boeing rep at OSH hinted that we'd be buying - 400 airframe h conversions in Isreal from British Airways and Lufthansa. Only part that didn't make sense was BA having Rolls Royce engines

But the 400s aren’t green environmentally anymore. Very troubling decision for our CEO I am sure. 😐


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