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Old 08-27-2021, 07:40 PM
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https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/delta-air-lines-to-impose-surcharge-on-unvaccinated-employees

Maybe you know more than the rest of us… please explain
He is not wrong. Delta incentivized the shot at first, just like we are, than they dropped the hammer on remaining holdouts. I’m not a fan of vaccination mandates, but reality is you can either get paid to be vaccinated or be penalized for not doing it. The legal system is backing vaccine mandates by companies, so the fix is in.
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https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-...ated-employees

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Well, I apparently know more than you, but I think most on this site are familiar with Delta’s vaccine incentive.

CV Immunization incentive Pay

I’m well aware that they’re raising premiums. That was never up for debate. What I said was accurate.
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Old 08-28-2021, 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by tnkrdrvr View Post
He is not wrong. Delta incentivized the shot at first, just like we are, than they dropped the hammer on remaining holdouts. I’m not a fan of vaccination mandates, but reality is you can either get paid to be vaccinated or be penalized for not doing it. The legal system is backing vaccine mandates by companies, so the fix is in.
Yes, I am totally against any sort of vaccine mandate, but hope some of you notice the 10 ton boulder rolling down the hill. You are either going to get the vaccine or you will either be penalized or won’t have a job. Unfortunately the courts are not on the unvaccinated side.
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Old 08-28-2021, 02:25 AM
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The most powerful force will be the foreign countries we fly to. Once the majority of their citizens get vax, the testing option will go away. Altho I do support the previously sick with antibodies being satisfactory. Maybe an antibody card that is equal to a vax card.
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Old 08-28-2021, 02:32 AM
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10.5 hrs of pay isn’t gonna change anyone’s mind about the vax. UPS is simply paying the alrdy vax to report it so they can use the data to schedule.
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Originally Posted by ClncClarence View Post
Well, I apparently know more than you, but I think most on this site are familiar with Delta’s vaccine incentive.

CV Immunization incentive Pay

I’m well aware that they’re raising premiums. That was never up for debate. What I said was accurate.
Fair enough and congratulations. I don’t ever go on the delta page. Thanks for the info.
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Old 10-02-2021, 06:56 AM
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Pretty safe to say that every airline with a govt oontract (is that all of them?) will have to mandate the shot. Now will that apply to the non airline side here...time will tell.
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Pretty safe to say that every airline with a govt oontract (is that all of them?) will have to mandate the shot. Now will that apply to the non airline side here...time will tell.
Pretty sure they will find every excuse to not mandate the vaccine for the non-airline side. They are already struggling to find enough workers willing to sling boxes at $21/hr with healthcare and retirement benefits. Pile on a mandate and they might have to up pay even further, which would trim profit margins.
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UPS, Disney Meet White House Officials to Discuss Vaccine Mandate (Reuters, Oct. 19)
Executives with United Parcel Service Inc, Walt Disney Co and other companies met with White House officials on Tuesday to discuss President Joe Biden's COVID-19 vaccine requirement plan for private-sector workers, amid concerns it could worsen labor shortages and supply chain woes.
The mandate would apply to businesses with 100 or more employees, and would affect about 80 million workers nationwide.
Several industry sources, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the rulemaking process was moving with urgency and they expect the mandate to be formally announced as early as this week. It was not clear how much time employers will have to implement it.
The White House's Office of Management and Budget (OMB) has been meeting with several influential business lobbying groups, such as the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the Retail Industry Leaders Association (RILA) and the Business Roundtable as part of its rulemaking process. The meetings were requested by the trade groups and companies and is part of the regular rulemaking process.
Tuesday's meetings were disclosed in filings with the White House. Disney did not respond to requests for comment. A UPS spokesperson confirmed the meeting and said it is reviewing what a vaccine mandate means for the company and its employees.
Many of the industry groups have raised concerns such as labor shortages and how regulation by the Department of Labor's Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) could worsen existing supply-chain problems facing U.S. companies ahead of the holiday shopping season. Other topics, such as testing requirements and who will bear the cost, also were raised.
Evan Armstrong, RILA vice president for workforce, said it will be tough for the retail industry to implement the rule in the middle of the U.S. holiday season and that pushing it to January would help. He said the group raised the topic with the White House during their meeting.
"The implementation period needs to push this out past the holiday season because obviously for retail that is the biggest time for us," he said. RILA's members include large U.S. employers such as Walmart Inc and the industry supports over 50 million U.S. jobs.
Biden's plan has drawn a mixed reaction from industry trade groups and companies.
Several big employers including Procter & Gamble Co and 3M Co, along with airlines such as American Airlines and JetBlue Airways Corp, have imposed vaccination mandates since Biden's announcement last month. Others such as IBM have said they will require all U.S. employees to be fully vaccinated by Dec. 8, no matter how often they come into the office.
Some other large U.S. employers, such as Walmart, have yet to issue broad requirements.
The vaccine order has spurred pushback from many Republican governors, including Florida's Ron DeSantis and Greg Abbott of Texas, who issued an executive order banning businesses in his state from requiring vaccinations for employees. Although some, such as American Airlines, have said they plan to proceed with vaccination rules.
The mandate will be implemented under a federal rule-making mechanism known as an emergency temporary standard.
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