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01-24-2023, 04:26 AM

#81

ekuflyer

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Posts: 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by tnkrdrvr

Yes, but it’s not as emotionally satisfying

1,442 (42% of current list) Mandatory Retirements through 2033
50.7 yrs old is average age of entire pilot group today

01-24-2023, 04:39 AM

#82

FTv3

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Joined APC: May 2018

Posts: 775

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Originally Posted by MD11Simnerd

Block hours are down, line numbers are down,

Down from the increase caused by Covid. Or simply back down to normal…

01-24-2023, 08:20 AM

#83

tnkrdrvr

Occasional box hauler

Joined APC: Jan 2018

Posts: 1,676

Quote:

Originally Posted by ekuflyer

1,442 (42% of current list) Mandatory Retirements through 2033
50.7 yrs old is average age of entire pilot group today

Yeah, I’m a lot less interested in what my seniority will hold on the tail end of my career than I am on what it will hold for the bulk of my career. Those numbers are amazing if you are in your early to mid-30s. Not quite so nice for those a decade older. I will have solid seniority progression during my career here, but nothing worth beating my chest about. Our single payscale and pension are what made/make this job attractive to me.

01-24-2023, 12:37 PM

#84

MD11Simnerd

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Joined APC: Apr 2008

Position: MD-11 Guru

Posts: 204

Quote:

Originally Posted by FTv3

Down from the increase caused by Covid. Or simply back down to normal…

Down from normal

01-24-2023, 02:01 PM

#85

flyguy23

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Originally Posted by MD11Simnerd

Down from normal

Just curious what metric you are using to say that?

01-24-2023, 02:50 PM

#86

MD11Simnerd

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Originally Posted by flyguy23

Just curious what metric you are using to say that?

The ops reports on the union website.

01-25-2023, 01:23 PM

#87

FTv3

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MD11Simnerd

Down from normal

Using your data source, Union bidding statistics, we have increased block hours by 8% compared to 2019 data for the same time period. There was a ton of extra volume during Covid for all the medical supplies, loss of belly space on pax carriers, container ship backlogs, etc. The loss of this is what we are seeing in the decreasing volumes from 2021/2. Nothing unexpected and was part of Tome’s better not bigger strategy.

Last edited by FTv3; 01-25-2023 at 01:24 PM. Reason: clarification

01-25-2023, 03:00 PM

#88

jetlaggy

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Joined APC: Aug 2005

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Posts: 1,355

Quote:

Originally Posted by FTv3

Down from the increase caused by Covid. Or simply back down to normal…

Back to normal

01-25-2023, 04:26 PM

#89

MD11Simnerd

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Originally Posted by FTv3

And with those 8% block hours there are more air-frames and pilots, average block hour per pilot is coming down.

And I am sure it is part of Tome's strategy, and the economy too.