new TA
#11
I too, would have been happy to see some scheduling language in this TA, but believe in its present form, this TA will pass. The EB made a convincing argument, outlining the current state of contract negotiations with the IBT, and reluctantly I will probably vote yes.
#13
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#14
I too, would have been happy to see some scheduling language in this TA, but believe in its present form, this TA will pass. The EB made a convincing argument, outlining the current state of contract negotiations with the IBT, and reluctantly I will probably vote yes.
#15
We’ve failed the EB and this is the turd they produce.
“Do the work of one pilot” nope, can’t be done…
“Fly your schedule” nope…too
much money to be lost.
I have lost all faith in our leadership, too cozy with the company. They failed to add anything of value to this fight..and why? Because we have failed them…reminds me of R Lee Ermey in FMJ
Still I cannot fathom why this was even given the time of day, sadly I think the reason is that the union knows what brown knows, we’re a social club from this point forward. The union now is a shadow of its former self.
I truly dislike our former president, he was a piece of work that probably cost the furloughed their jobs for a while, but at least he knew when to fight. This is just sad, and the “sell” they are putting on it it almost shameful.
“we can paint ANY car for $29.99” the more emails I get about how wonderful this is, the more I think this is a poop sandwich.
carry on….because we’re all screwed.
.
“Do the work of one pilot” nope, can’t be done…
“Fly your schedule” nope…too
much money to be lost.
I have lost all faith in our leadership, too cozy with the company. They failed to add anything of value to this fight..and why? Because we have failed them…reminds me of R Lee Ermey in FMJ
Still I cannot fathom why this was even given the time of day, sadly I think the reason is that the union knows what brown knows, we’re a social club from this point forward. The union now is a shadow of its former self.
I truly dislike our former president, he was a piece of work that probably cost the furloughed their jobs for a while, but at least he knew when to fight. This is just sad, and the “sell” they are putting on it it almost shameful.
“we can paint ANY car for $29.99” the more emails I get about how wonderful this is, the more I think this is a poop sandwich.
carry on….because we’re all screwed.
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Last edited by Section Eight; 06-14-2022 at 04:53 PM.
#16
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I'm open to discussion but it seems to me that the reality is that their hands are tied. I mean, you tell me: What do we potentially stand to gain if we "fight"? AFAICT, and again, correct me if I'm wrong, we're basically giving up at the most 6 months on the timeline to get more or less COL increases in pay and a better bargaining position when the time comes to negotiate a real contract. What am I missing?
I'm seriously asking. I'm new, and dumb. But I watched the videos and the EB seemed to make a fairly convincing argument to me.
I'm seriously asking. I'm new, and dumb. But I watched the videos and the EB seemed to make a fairly convincing argument to me.
#18
And they know it…that’s the problem that no one seems to see. We’re “neutered” and passing this they know they have us going forward. Pass this and just see why comes next…they’re just getting warmed up.
They KNOW they have a fractured “unwilling to do the tough work” union, and this is the result of that.
Carry on….
They KNOW they have a fractured “unwilling to do the tough work” union, and this is the result of that.
Carry on….
#19
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And they know it…that’s the problem that no one seems to see. We’re “neutered” and passing this they know they have us going forward. Pass this and just see why comes next…they’re just getting warmed up.
They KNOW they have a fractured “unwilling to do the tough work” union, and this is the result of that.
Carry on….
They KNOW they have a fractured “unwilling to do the tough work” union, and this is the result of that.
Carry on….
Timing is everything and I dont believe now is the time…but to your point, we have had many chances to step up and failed to do so.
#20
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And they know it…that’s the problem that no one seems to see. We’re “neutered” and passing this they know they have us going forward. Pass this and just see why comes next…they’re just getting warmed up.
They KNOW they have a fractured “unwilling to do the tough work” union, and this is the result of that.
Carry on….
They KNOW they have a fractured “unwilling to do the tough work” union, and this is the result of that.
Carry on….