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Old 07-15-2022, 07:29 PM
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For those that haven't heard, the window is open for the second time this year. Here's the problem a friend of mine is having. He applied in January and pretty quickly got a thanks but no thanks or something similar. His application went right to inactive.

Since January he's improved his qualifications quite a bit with a 747 type rating, and time at a 121 carrier.

He went to reapply and things were going well until it asked, "have you applied earlier this year?" He said yes, and immediately got a screen saying we already have your stuff in the system, no need to reapply. We'll they do, but they don't. How can you get around this to show increased qualifications such as I mentioned, new jobs, check airmen letters, etc.?

UPS Pilot Application Window Now Open

UPS issued the following information on pilot applications in today's Chief Pilot Information Line:


 UPS is, once again, now accepting applications for First Officer positions at the UPSjobs.com website. The projected close date is around Aug. 14.

Applicants must have the following qualifications:

• Hold a current unrestricted ATP certificate with an airplane category multi-engine class rating and English proficiency endorsement

• Hold a current FAA first class medical certificate

• Hold an FCC Restricted Radiotelephone Operators Permit

• Hold a valid passport

• Have authorization to work in the United States

• Have a minimum of 1500 hours of total fixed-wing pilot time

• Minimum of 1,000 Pilot in Command (PIC) hours in fixed-wing jet and/or fixed-wing multi-engine turboprop per 14 CFR 1.1.

*UPS will allow military candidates to add a plus (.3) per sortie factor to flight time.

If you know of any dedicated aviation professionals with these qualifications, please encourage them to apply at UPSjobs.com .
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Old 07-15-2022, 07:49 PM
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For those that haven't heard, the window is open for the second time this year. Here's the problem a friend of mine is having. He applied in January and pretty quickly got a thanks but no thanks or something similar. His application went right to inactive.

Since January he's improved his qualifications quite a bit with a 747 type rating, and time at a 121 carrier.

He went to reapply and things were going well until it asked, "have you applied earlier this year?" He said yes, and immediately got a screen saying we already have your stuff in the system, no need to reapply. We'll they do, but they don't. How can you get around this to show increased qualifications such as I mentioned, new jobs, check airmen letters, etc.?

UPS Pilot Application Window Now Open

UPS issued the following information on pilot applications in today's Chief Pilot Information Line:


 UPS is, once again, now accepting applications for First Officer positions at the UPSjobs.com website. The projected close date is around Aug. 14.

Applicants must have the following qualifications:

• Hold a current unrestricted ATP certificate with an airplane category multi-engine class rating and English proficiency endorsement

• Hold a current FAA first class medical certificate

• Hold an FCC Restricted Radiotelephone Operators Permit

• Hold a valid passport

• Have authorization to work in the United States

• Have a minimum of 1500 hours of total fixed-wing pilot time

• Minimum of 1,000 Pilot in Command (PIC) hours in fixed-wing jet and/or fixed-wing multi-engine turboprop per 14 CFR 1.1.

*UPS will allow military candidates to add a plus (.3) per sortie factor to flight time.

If you know of any dedicated aviation professionals with these qualifications, please encourage them to apply at UPSjobs.com .
New Email address and start over?
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Old 07-15-2022, 11:46 PM
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New Email address and start over?
but then you would still have to lie on the app...
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Old 07-16-2022, 02:34 AM
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Would a rec submitted during the last window carry over if you change your email?
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Old 07-16-2022, 03:57 AM
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but then you would still have to lie on the app...
I believe this can be easily explained during the interview process. I would definitely start over with a new email address. I seriously doubt the question comes up if you applied twice this year should they be selected to further in the process. Worth a shot for sure
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Old 07-16-2022, 04:23 AM
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Would a rec submitted during the last window carry over if you change your email?
No, it’s tied to the email address. Your buddy would have to redo it using the new email address.
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Old 07-16-2022, 05:31 AM
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Even the guys in operations management don’t know the way the HR algorithms work for pilot recruitment. Use a new email address and get your buddy to put in a new rec
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Old 07-16-2022, 07:33 AM
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I’ve never seen a company make it so hard for people to just submit an application. Hopefully UPS eventually scraps this HR system in the future. There are likely many highly qualified professionals being left out in the cold because they can’t even get an application to submit.
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Old 07-16-2022, 07:48 AM
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I’ve never seen a company make it so hard for people to just submit an application. Hopefully UPS eventually scraps this HR system in the future. There are likely many highly qualified professionals being left out in the cold because they can’t even get an application to submit.
If this sort of thing drives you crazy think long and hard about accepting the job. It's a great place to be in a lot of ways, but this kind of thing is the water in which you will swim.
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Old 07-16-2022, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Chancellor View Post
I’ve never seen a company make it so hard for people to just submit an application. Hopefully UPS eventually scraps this HR system in the future. There are likely many highly qualified professionals being left out in the cold because they can’t even get an application to submit.
Just like first year pay. How bad do you want to work here?
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