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#21
Social Media retired.
Joined APC: May 2018
Posts: 768
Joachim,
Problem with that end of year thread is a lot of guys embellish their earnings and are the outliers, not the norm/average for pilot pay. E.g. I made 400K with 16 days off per month….No, you made 400K sitting reserve and not getting called then picking up time and a half on your days off…You really made $250K @ 16 days off then picked up another $150 in extra work and only truly had 3-4 days off per month. 2 Factors needed - 1. Need reserve that doesn’t call you out, or displaced for training 2. Need time and a half trips to be available. We are starting to see this make a return here. OTW we had other good deals here (conflict) for a long time. It was called Anchorage. Too bad the party’s over now…. If you’re senior on fleet its still a hayday here, you’ll see. Mid pack guys can beat the system to a limited extent it they work at it and have a bit of luck.
Problem with that end of year thread is a lot of guys embellish their earnings and are the outliers, not the norm/average for pilot pay. E.g. I made 400K with 16 days off per month….No, you made 400K sitting reserve and not getting called then picking up time and a half on your days off…You really made $250K @ 16 days off then picked up another $150 in extra work and only truly had 3-4 days off per month. 2 Factors needed - 1. Need reserve that doesn’t call you out, or displaced for training 2. Need time and a half trips to be available. We are starting to see this make a return here. OTW we had other good deals here (conflict) for a long time. It was called Anchorage. Too bad the party’s over now…. If you’re senior on fleet its still a hayday here, you’ll see. Mid pack guys can beat the system to a limited extent it they work at it and have a bit of luck.
#22
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2013
Posts: 523
[QUOTE=Chancellor;3555058]Perspective. Currently living in SDF domicile and bid PM Reserve, barely ever work and haven’t flown overnights in months.[/QUOTE
What fleet? The other thread said that reserves were used frequently.
What fleet? The other thread said that reserves were used frequently.
#23
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2019
Posts: 239
[QUOTE=Gilligan13;3557381]Probably the 74. Not much goes on B reserve.
#25
Occasional box hauler
Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 1,636
[QUOTE=Gilligan13;3558173]Prime time is flying out of the next day sort. The afternoon sort is smaller and not as urgent (2 day). That said, there is usually greater reserve A coverage, which can result in a lower utilization rate.
#26
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Joined APC: Jan 2012
Posts: 53
#27
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Joined APC: Nov 2019
Posts: 39
Being a UPS guy for 26 yrs now, the schedules have gotten bad, very bad.
The two things going for us is OCV Vacation rules & A Plan.
Our B Plan stops once you make $305k.
( so, the 12% is more like 8-9% )
We need a cash over cap like UAL.
UPS is on track with other widebody LCC pay,.
Guys shouldn’t be cheerleading for UPS considering we are in negotiations.
#28
What low cost carrier, narrow or wide body, approaches 350 an hour or our w2 figures for their pilot group?
That said, I hate seeing people come here just for the pay. It's a difficult place to work on many levels.
That said, I hate seeing people come here just for the pay. It's a difficult place to work on many levels.
#29
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Joined APC: Nov 2019
Posts: 39
A low cost carrier, probably not as high W2 as UPS.
But a widebody Legacy carriers, easily.
Money isn’t everything.
It buys cool stuff, but a 30 yr career is a long time.
Corporate America can be cruel, they’re here for their shareholders not us minions.
Again, my comment was more about QOL & how the schedules have gotten worse……
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