May 2023 retirements

Reply Subscribe

Page 2 of 2

Thread Tools

Search this Thread

06-04-2023, 09:31 AM

#11

tnkrdrvr

Occasional box hauler

Joined APC: Jan 2018

Posts: 1,682

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riverside

How many new hires are filling up those retirement slots?

Due to no new hire classes we are currently shrinking as a pilot group. We almost surpassed 3500 and are down to almost 3400. It’s unknown when the company will resume hiring with “official” rumors being as soon as early summer. I wouldn’t be shocked to see no new hires until late this year.

06-04-2023, 10:37 AM

#12

flyguy37

Gets Weekends Off

Joined APC: Apr 2006

Position: Furloughed

Posts: 429

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riverside

How many new hires are filling up those retirement slots?

ha. Mic drop 😜

06-04-2023, 12:42 PM

#13

MD11Simnerd

Gets Weekends Off

Joined APC: Apr 2008

Position: MD-11 Guru

Posts: 204

Quote:

Originally Posted by tnkrdrvr

I would be very surprised if there is hiring in 2023. The company has chosen to make voluntary time off available in our contractual schedule bidding process. Both RDG (lower time lines) and VLOA (time of with benefits but no pay). It seems that UPS hires full bore until they suddenly stop, then they don't start hiring again until open time, JA, and MEF are over the top. The only vacancy bids I see in the near future are Realignment or Realignment/Displacement bids to keep the left seat covered from retirements with the current seniority list.

06-07-2023, 12:59 PM

#14

UPSFO4LIFE

Gets Weekends Off

Joined APC: May 2006

Position: DC-8 756/767

Posts: 1,144

Heard there are no plans to hire again in 2023. This is UPS though and that could change next week.

06-07-2023, 01:26 PM

#15

FTv3

Social Media retired.

Joined APC: May 2018

Posts: 777

Quote:

Originally Posted by UPSFO4LIFE

Heard there are no plans to hire again in 2023. This is UPS though and that could change next week.

Considering the IPA is querying UPS on whether or not they have any plans for furloughing pilots (they said they don’t) I would think it’s a pretty safe bet no hiring for the remainder of 2023. If I had to guess I’d say we only take on 20-50 in 2024, if any at all.

06-19-2023, 08:28 AM

#16

tnkrdrvr

Occasional box hauler

Joined APC: Jan 2018

Posts: 1,682

Quote:

Originally Posted by FTv3

The upcoming schedule bid will have plenty of opportunities for guys to take VLOA/RDG. These are options for pilots to either not work or work less while maintaining benefits. The good news is this provides a buffer during slow times like this to help prevent furloughs (which I don’t see as likely!). The bad news for our poolies is that classes are unlikely over the next few months. If you have a good offer elsewhere that you haven’t already jumped on, do it now. We will resume hiring at some point or we will shrink dramatically over the next few years.