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Transitioning from B757 to A300
Dear Colleagues,
I am currently FO for a major freight operator in Europe, and given the potential opportunity to either stay on the B757 or transition to the A300. I didn't build much hours so far on the 757, due to the network we currently have, so was considering to keep flying it. However the A300 is also attractive as a new type to learn, and a different network. I was wondering if colleagues at UPS that evolved that way, or flew both types, would be able to give their opinion, regarding the airplane itself, and the benefits / offset it can bring for future development? Thanks a lot and happy landings! |
The A300 jumpseats are 1000% better. If that's a factor.
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Originally Posted by CardboardCutout
(Post 3981432)
The A300 jumpseats are 1000% better. If that's a factor.
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Originally Posted by usmc-sgt
(Post 3981440)
The balcony Jumpseat in the 75 is a special treat. Like riding on the captains shoulders.
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Boeing guys will tell you the A300 is slow....and by comparison, it is (a whole 0.02M).
Some of the biggest benefits of the Bus are: 1. Cockpit size 2. Supernumerary 3. 4 of 5 jumpseats in the supernumerary 4. Loo in the supernumerary 5. The sheer amount of bag storage in the supernumerary 6. Did I mention the supernumerary? I hear the 757 flies like a sports car, the Bus doesn't but it isn't a Mack truck either. The 757 lands more consistently smooth than the A300 (A300 has a stubby wing and stiff main gear). The 757 has better altitude capability than the A300, again due to wing, though the A300 climbs pretty decently to the low 30s. The 757 probably rides turbulence better than the Bus, again due to the wing. Our Busses also have Honewell Epic which IMO is a better mousetrap than the Collins LDS. A300 has brake fans, which means we see our fair share of short runways. An A310 type rating is pretty useless in 2026, but in all I've been happy flying the plane and if the way it is utilized suits your desires, go for it. |
All these airplanes are equally boring. Pick the one that best suits your lifestyle I.e. commute or not, destinations,etc
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Personally, I’d look at it from the framework of what advances my career towards my goals best. I can’t speak for any of that at your company.
From a purely piloting perspective, the A300s at your company will have antiquated avionics and FMS. The 75 will have almost as bad an avionics suite. UPS has updated both jets over the past 5-7 years and so we fly behind very different panels than you will. The A300 freighter definitely has a more comfortable cockpit layout than the 75 freighter. Better galley, better jump seats, better everything. The 75 has a better wing if greasing every landing is essential to you. At the end of the day your job is to sit at the pointy end of an aluminum tube for money. Pick the tube that best meets your needs/wants. |
Originally Posted by BoilerUP
(Post 3981619)
Boeing guys will tell you the A300 is slow....and by comparison, it is (a whole 0.02M).
Some of the biggest benefits of the Bus are: 1. Cockpit size 2. Supernumerary 3. 4 of 5 jumpseats in the supernumerary 4. Loo in the supernumerary 5. The sheer amount of bag storage in the supernumerary 6. Did I mention the supernumerary? I hear the 757 flies like a sports car, the Bus doesn't but it isn't a Mack truck either. The 757 lands more consistently smooth than the A300 (A300 has a stubby wing and stiff main gear). The 757 has better altitude capability than the A300, again due to wing, though the A300 climbs pretty decently to the low 30s. The 757 probably rides turbulence better than the Bus, again due to the wing. Our Busses also have Honewell Epic which IMO is a better mousetrap than the Collins LDS. A300 has brake fans, which means we see our fair share of short runways. An A310 type rating is pretty useless in 2026, but in all I've been happy flying the plane and if the way it is utilized suits your desires, go for it. |
Originally Posted by mrvmo
(Post 3981964)
If you like deicing in July, diving into the greasy, dirty, dripping e&e compartment on preflight, a main cargo door that blows the slide if u open it wrong, crew members that are afraid of there own shadows on Mexican layovers, and ECAM……..you def should bid over to the A300😁😁
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Thanks a lot for the inputs. Sounds like a various amount of opinions out there :).
The avionics on the 75 is the FPDS, so quite ok even if the VSI is very annoyingly located and not in the background of the altitude tape. The A300 has some mix of old CRT avionics and modern FMC apparently. Would transitioning to a widebody airplane bring anything positive? Also the rating 75/76 is clearly more useful. Yeah the Bus is more comfortable truely... Anyway, I guess nothing really points to a better or worse case, as some said, roster, conditions... are what prevails. How is technically the A300 in terms of learning curve, and procedure wise? I have heard hairy stories about the way abnormals and emergencies are treated. How is hand flying, any huge difference between both? Thanks and happy landings! |
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