Originally Posted by Commando (Post 1798053)

No Sh*t other Airlines are 2x or 4X larger. But 30 retirements a year times 4 is 120. Most Airlines are in the 300 to 600 range of retirements a year. If not more.

Hiring 25 or having a System wide Vacancy of 9 upgrades is a Joke. A Bad Joke. But it's reality here at UPS. 9? Seriously?

Or 65 New Hires over the course of 8 years. 2007 till mid 2015 we will have hired 65 pilots. Wow!

Originally Posted by taildraggaah (Post 1797996)

While I appreciate all answers (no bitterness please), what would be the junior base for the next round of hiring?

Originally Posted by UPSpilott (Post 1798352)

Heard a lot rumors about a China base. I hope you like dumplings.

Originally Posted by UPSpilott (Post 1798352)

Heard a lot rumors about a China base. I hope you like dumplings.

Originally Posted by Rocket Bob (Post 1798877)

I once flew with an ex Pan Am pilot who'd been a junior flight engineer for 14 years. a lot of the guys at Delta were engineers for 7 years, imagine the stagnation! Yet they weren't 1/16 as bitter as the guys on here..weird.

Originally Posted by UPSpilott (Post 1798904)

Apples to oranges dude...industry wide stagnation is different to one we're in as there are growth all around and our employer decided to take the opposite route.....outsourcing..hiring direct entry captains..shrinking the union force...etc etc.

Originally Posted by mrvmo (Post 1798911)

Much of the hiring that is going on now really is not covering for any growth at any of the airlines. Pilot attrition is what is driving this new wave of hiring. Most, if not all of the airlines with a/c on order are not in any type of growth mode. The new a/c airlines are receiving now, are mostly a 1 for 1 swap. New a/c shows up.....replaces old a/c shipped of to boneyard.